"Josh" wrote in message
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Hi,

Sometimes when I'm runing in stations with my grundig-fr200 radio I hear
something that sounds like teletype or really fast morse code. what is
this?

What frequencies?

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rb

Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of
what you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.

I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for
them to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will
correct my speculation.

You are correct.
Hams are prohibited from sending coded communications.

How do you explain CW?

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Brian Denley
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Brian Denley wrote:
Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of
what you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.

I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for
them to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will
correct my speculation.

You are correct.
Hams are prohibited from sending coded communications.

How do you explain CW?

an aside I find it amusing that a memebr of NCI is explain this but Ron
Baker's statement is incorrect because it is incomplete he should have
type (caps mine) "Hams are prohibited from sending SECRECTLY coded
communications."

Morse Encoded OOKed CW is not asecert the same rule allows PSK #! the
code is known, there was a discusion last July i think on RRAP to the
effect that Likely a coded messge by some PGP could be send over ARS if
the loctcation of all the keys were tranmited in the clear. it was
alsoagreed that the FCC would likely fght that battle out

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Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"Brian Denley" wrote in message
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Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of
what you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.

I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for
them to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will
correct my speculation.

You are correct.
Hams are prohibited from sending coded communications.

How do you explain CW?

I beg forgiveness.
Strike 'coded' and insert 'encrypted'.

--
rb

You are not even supposed to speak in code. Yet somehow, speaking in a
foreign language on repeaters is considered acceptable, though not by
me.

Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of what
you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.

I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for them
to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will correct my
speculation.

You are correct.
Hams are prohibited from sending coded communications.

--
rb

wrote:
Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of what
you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.

I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for them
to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will correct my
speculation.

You are correct.
Hams are prohibited from sending coded communications.

You are not even supposed to speak in code. Yet somehow, speaking in a
foreign language on repeaters is considered acceptable, though not by
me.

There was a period when FCC considered ASCII to be a "secret code", and
prohibited its on-air use by hams.

Seriously.

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If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

When webtv first came out,it was illegal to transport a webtv unit to
any foreign countries because of 128 bit encryption.Look it up.
cuhulin

wrote:

When webtv first came out,it was illegal to transport a webtv unit to
any foreign countries because of 128 bit encryption.Look it up.
cuhulin


Anybody remember the fuss over PGP (Pretty Good Privacy), a freeware
encryption program that came out in the early days of the public
internet? The feds HATED it because they were afraid that high grade
encryption would fall into the hands of our enemies. It never caught on,
and the NSA likely cracked the code, so they stopped making a fuss about
it and now nobody remembers it.

Heck,better than that,,, just invent some kind of a language nobody has
ever heard of before and use that to email people.Change it entirely
every once in a while so as to keep fed govt on their toes.
cuhulin

running dogg wrote:
Anybody remember the fuss over PGP (Pretty Good Privacy), a freeware
encryption program that came out in the early days of the public
internet? The feds HATED it because they were afraid that high grade
encryption would fall into the hands of our enemies. It never caught on,
and the NSA likely cracked the code, so they stopped making a fuss about
it and now nobody remembers it.

I have always been suspicious since the time MIT (?) said, "you can't use
this version of it, but you can use this other version which is exactly
like the other version in every respect." Somehow I never believed the new
version was like the old version in every respect.

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If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.