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Old March 28th 06, 12:33 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
 
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Hi All,

I am a SWL from India and hope to get a ticket soon. I am constructing
a simple receiver and i would like to construct a good antenna for my
receiver and in future for my transmitter as well. I came across a
design in a souvenir released by Hamfest India where an antenna called
"Pyramid Antenna" is described. The author gave reference to one design
published in Radio Magazibe 1982 by Steve Bauer,DJIUS. I came across
another similar design described in
http://www.warc.org.uk/clubmag/qsx13.pdf . I would like to know more
about this antenna and the experience of using it, about it's
performance. My house is near a 11KV power line and my antenna will be
less than 15 feet from the above said power line.

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Shan
SWL

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On 28 Mar 2006 02:33:09 -0800, wrote:

Hi All,

I am a SWL from India and hope to get a ticket soon. I am constructing
a simple receiver and i would like to construct a good antenna for my
receiver and in future for my transmitter as well. I came across a
design in a souvenir released by Hamfest India where an antenna called
"Pyramid Antenna" is described. The author gave reference to one design
published in Radio Magazibe 1982 by Steve Bauer,DJIUS. I came across
another similar design described in
http://www.warc.org.uk/clubmag/qsx13.pdf . I would like to know more
about this antenna and the experience of using it, about it's
performance. My house is near a 11KV power line and my antenna will be
less than 15 feet from the above said power line.

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Shan
SWL


That's too close.

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I'm afraid you will have to find a better spot for the antenna. The
power line you mention will be a source of too much noise. In fact, I
can hardly imagine a more potent source of rfi....well, wait a minute,
let me try:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RM3SxDw7uMs

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Default Three Antennas : Pyramid Antenna - Inverted "L" Antenna - Tilted Terminated Folded Dipole Antenna (T2FD)

SHAN,

PYRAMID ANTENNA :
Your Pyramid Antenna would be more aptly described as :
Two Delta Loop Antennas fed out of phase; having a
common fed-point at Apexes; and Slanted at -30 Degrees
and +30 Degrees from the Vertical.

ANTENNAS AND POWER LINES :
Now as to placing this Antenna or any Antenna directly
under the or very near Power Lines : It is not and I repeat
NOT recommended [.]
- - - First consider a smaller simpler Antenna that is further
away from the Power Lines. (20m Inverted "L" Antenna
10m Up and 10m Out -or- 5m Up and 5m Out)

BASIC INVERTED "L" ANTENNA FOR
THE AMATEUR {HAM} OPERATOR
Dr. Ace's [WH2T] Inverted L Antenna Info
ILA = http://www.bloomington.in.us/~wh2t/invertedl.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/309
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f4e4ded6f94686
NOTE: The Amateur/HAM Inverted "L" Antenna is usually made-up
of Two Equal Sections One Vertical 'Leg' and One Horazontal 'Arm'.
These Two Equal Section can be:
* 1/8th Wavelength = Quarter Wavelength Total
* 1/4th Wavelength = Half Wavelength Total
* 1/2th Wavelength = One Wavelength Total
Because of the 'equal' porportionality, the Amateur / HAM
Inverted "L" Antenna is most often Higher above the Ground
then the SWL Version.
Note - For Amateur Radio use the basic common
20m 1/2 WL Inverted "L" Antenna is :
= 1/4 WL on 40m
= 1/8 WL on 80m
= 1 WL on 10m

FWIW :
- Why not place this Pyramid Antenna in the Attic like
the original magazine article did ?
- If you have a Pitched Roof this Pyramid Antenna can
be Laid Top of the Roof using Insulated Wire.
- If you have a Flat Roof then this Pyramid Antenna can
be Laid Flat on a Roof using Insulated Wire.

ALTERNATIVE : T2FD ANTENNA
To the Pyramid Antenna for an out-side location consider
the Tilted Terminated Folded Dipole Antenna (T2FD)

Hard Core DX - "T2FD Antenna" - Info and Design Links
GoTo= http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx...ire/index.html
- - - The Terminated Tilted Folded Dipole (T2FD)
- - - The "T2FD" is a Broad All Band Antenna for SWL.
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx...wire/t2fd.html
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx.../t2design.html
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx.../t2fdfeed.html
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx.../t2fdcomp.html
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx...re/t2fd_1.html

More About the Terminated Tilted Folded Dipole (T2FD)
* How To Build the TTFD : A Broadband Antenna for
Shortwave Reception - by Arnie Coro [RHC] Dxers Unlimited
http://www.radiohc.org/Distributions/Dxers/ttfd2.html
* Modeling the T2FD - by L.B. Cebik [W4RNL]
http://www.cebik.com/wire/t2fd.html

The Formulas for Calculating Terminated Tilted Folded
Dipole (T2FD) Dimensions are found at :
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx.../t2design.html

Simple {No Math} Just-Cut-It T2FD Antenna :
In order to cover the main portion of Shortwave (5 - 30 MHz),
a T2FD Antenna will be roughly 20m (66 feet) long, with a
spacing of 60 cm (24 inches). With the Top-End mounted
about 40 Feet High and the Bottom-End mounted at 7 Feet
with a 30 Degrees from Horizontal Slant Top-to-Bottom.


hope this helps - iane ~ RHF
..
All are WELCOME and "Invited to Join" the
Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna eGroup on YAHOO !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
SWL ANTENNAS GROUP = http://tinyurl.com/an6tw
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