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Old April 7th 06, 01:23 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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That C Crane radios are probably ****ty. Anybody here ever buy one?


SC

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Old April 7th 06, 02:18 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
 
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I bought two ccrane Sangean radios about nine something years ago.The
first one was the one those two Idiots and Morons and Stupid Imbeciles
Art Bell and George Noory tout so much,(seeee,,, they get paid for
toutin the S..t they pedal) that can't keep its front panel
AM/FM/TV/Weather radio that really has Lousey sound/audio quality too.I
played with it for a week and I sent that cheap over rated and over
priced piece of S..t back to Fortuna,California.(no disrespect to the
good citizens and denizens of Fortuna,California)

Yerra,and then I bought a Sangean ATS 909 (or whatever they call it?)
AM/FM/Shortwave radio from ccrane and I played with it for a week
too.y'all guessed it,back to Fortuna that piece of S..t! ,it went too!

LQQK,I tried em out,I didn't like em atall.
I Say Bob Crane should reimburse me for the shipping charges I wasted on
sending them two Playkool radios back to Fortuna.
cuhulin

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Old April 7th 06, 04:00 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
 
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Slow Code wrote:
That C Crane radios are probably ****ty. Anybody here ever buy one?


SC


- Yep..

and I have nothing but good words for C Crane & Co . . ..

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Old April 7th 06, 08:49 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Dear "Slow Code,"

You wrote:

That C Crane radios are probably sh***y. Anybody here ever buy one?


Yes, I did. I bought it for my wife so she could listen to TV audio
when she was outside gardening and I thought I would also be able to
use it for MW DXing.

Well, she uses it for TV audio, but I don't use it at all. It's very
poorly constructed and we've found that often, if you use one of the
"memory" buttons, the alarm will be set even when you don't want it to
be. And, unless you look carefully, you won't see this. Plus the memory
buttons as such don't work particularly well. (We've set the alarm to
sound at 9:00 AM so it will no longer wake us unnecessarily!)

Our CC Radio is about three years old and we have not had the problem
(yet) of the LCD display malfunctioning, but the radio is a big
disappointment to me. I was hoping for a "digital" radio equivalent of
the GE Superadio for MW but this is not it. (For MW DXing outdoors, the
Sony ICF-SW7600GR runs rings around the CC Radio and the GE Superadios
[versions I, II, and III] also.)

As for the sound quality on FM, well, to be charitable, it leaves
something to be desired.

Sangean's construction quality makes the Grundig Satellit 800's look
good.

I have had three Sangean radios over the years: this one, the CC Radio,
an ATS-808A which "bit the dust" after only three years (it is now
resident in our local landfill), and an ATS-606AP in which the computer
is starting to "go." (I have packed that one up in its box and put it
in the basement.)

Three strikes and out. I will not buy nor will I recommend anyone
buying any Sangean radio.

I will say that the C. Crane Company itself is a fine company with
which to deal. It's too bad that they allow Sangean to put their name
on some of Sangean's radios. This detracts from C. Crane's good name
and that's a shame.

Best,

Joe

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Old April 7th 06, 10:03 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
Michael Lawson
 
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Joe--

Just curious; where were your Sangean's made?
My old DX-440 was made in Taiwan, and it's
still going after 17 years.

Man, I can't believe I've had it that long.

--Mike L.

"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
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Dear "Slow Code,"

You wrote:

That C Crane radios are probably sh***y. Anybody here ever buy

one?


Yes, I did. I bought it for my wife so she could listen to TV audio
when she was outside gardening and I thought I would also be able to
use it for MW DXing.

Well, she uses it for TV audio, but I don't use it at all. It's very
poorly constructed and we've found that often, if you use one of the
"memory" buttons, the alarm will be set even when you don't want it

to
be. And, unless you look carefully, you won't see this. Plus the

memory
buttons as such don't work particularly well. (We've set the alarm

to
sound at 9:00 AM so it will no longer wake us unnecessarily!)

Our CC Radio is about three years old and we have not had the

problem
(yet) of the LCD display malfunctioning, but the radio is a big
disappointment to me. I was hoping for a "digital" radio equivalent

of
the GE Superadio for MW but this is not it. (For MW DXing outdoors,

the
Sony ICF-SW7600GR runs rings around the CC Radio and the GE

Superadios
[versions I, II, and III] also.)

As for the sound quality on FM, well, to be charitable, it leaves
something to be desired.

Sangean's construction quality makes the Grundig Satellit 800's look
good.

I have had three Sangean radios over the years: this one, the CC

Radio,
an ATS-808A which "bit the dust" after only three years (it is now
resident in our local landfill), and an ATS-606AP in which the

computer
is starting to "go." (I have packed that one up in its box and put

it
in the basement.)

Three strikes and out. I will not buy nor will I recommend anyone
buying any Sangean radio.

I will say that the C. Crane Company itself is a fine company with
which to deal. It's too bad that they allow Sangean to put their

name
on some of Sangean's radios. This detracts from C. Crane's good name
and that's a shame.

Best,

Joe





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Old April 10th 06, 04:53 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
running dogg
 
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Michael Lawson wrote:

Joe--

Just curious; where were your Sangean's made?
My old DX-440 was made in Taiwan, and it's
still going after 17 years.

Man, I can't believe I've had it that long.


I think the problems started once Sangean switched manufacturing to the
Chinese mainland. Sangean is a Taiwan company, and due to the bitter
relations between the CCP and the socalled "renegade province" Chinese
companies are out to screw over any Taiwanese who invest in China. It
wouldn't surprise me if the Chinese subcontractor DELIBERATELY builds
the Sangean radios poorly, on Party orders, so that Sangean and by
extension Taiwan looks bad. Note that Sangean doesn't put "Made in
China" on any of their radios because of the China-Taiwan bad blood. If
you have to buy Chinese, buy a radio that doesn't come with 60 years of
added baggage, such as Tecsun or Degen.


--Mike L.

"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
ups.com...
Dear "Slow Code,"

You wrote:

That C Crane radios are probably sh***y. Anybody here ever buy

one?


Yes, I did. I bought it for my wife so she could listen to TV audio
when she was outside gardening and I thought I would also be able to
use it for MW DXing.

Well, she uses it for TV audio, but I don't use it at all. It's very
poorly constructed and we've found that often, if you use one of the
"memory" buttons, the alarm will be set even when you don't want it

to
be. And, unless you look carefully, you won't see this. Plus the

memory
buttons as such don't work particularly well. (We've set the alarm

to
sound at 9:00 AM so it will no longer wake us unnecessarily!)

Our CC Radio is about three years old and we have not had the

problem
(yet) of the LCD display malfunctioning, but the radio is a big
disappointment to me. I was hoping for a "digital" radio equivalent

of
the GE Superadio for MW but this is not it. (For MW DXing outdoors,

the
Sony ICF-SW7600GR runs rings around the CC Radio and the GE

Superadios
[versions I, II, and III] also.)

As for the sound quality on FM, well, to be charitable, it leaves
something to be desired.

Sangean's construction quality makes the Grundig Satellit 800's look
good.

I have had three Sangean radios over the years: this one, the CC

Radio,
an ATS-808A which "bit the dust" after only three years (it is now
resident in our local landfill), and an ATS-606AP in which the

computer
is starting to "go." (I have packed that one up in its box and put

it
in the basement.)

Three strikes and out. I will not buy nor will I recommend anyone
buying any Sangean radio.

I will say that the C. Crane Company itself is a fine company with
which to deal. It's too bad that they allow Sangean to put their

name
on some of Sangean's radios. This detracts from C. Crane's good name
and that's a shame.

Best,

Joe




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Old April 10th 06, 05:17 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
Joe Analssandrini
 
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Dear Mike,

My ATS-808A (purchased in 1997) and my ATS-606AP (purchased in 1998)
were both made in Taiwan. My CC Radio (made in China) was purchased in
2003. Poorly made all.

It's quite possible that in seventeen years Sangean's quality has gone
down. Certainly that has been my experience.

I personally will never again buy any Sangean radio.

Best,

Joe

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Old April 18th 06, 05:31 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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I agre, Mike, my DX-440 is that old, too and runs at least 10 hours a
day, every day. See my previous
posts:............................................ ..........Bob wrote:"I
have owned the Sangean ATS 803A (rebranded as the RadioShack DX-440)
since 1989 and it has played all night, every night, for at least 10
hours, for the last 17 years. I also take it virtually everywhere I go:
in my small boat, on car trips, on the porch every weekend, on planes,
in both carry-on and checked luggage, duffel bags, car trunks, etc., and
have never had a single problem with it in all this time. I often use
simple wire antennas for portable use, and it sets within a home-built
triangular MW tunable loop antenna, and both of these atop a 69¢
turntable from the grocery store at my bedside table. The antenna input
transistors have never fried even with the hundreds of T-storms and
other static events it has withstood. It has also been used as a FM
tuner on an amplifier and had a good-sized Yagi array for FM, all to no
bad effect. I have several other radios to compare it to: Lowe HF-225,
Yaesu FRG-8800 and FRG-100, and also owned a Kenwood R-5000 for a couple
years, and various other decent VHF and UHF receivers and FM equipment,
so this is an informed opinion. I am not saying the DX-440 is as fine a
reciever in all ways, but it compares favorably in the portable category
for which it was intended, and using only a reasonable measure of care,
its record of reliability and durability speaks for itself. I would not
hesitate for one single second to buy another Sangean product."

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