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Old April 24th 06, 01:25 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Hey, let's ease up on things in here, folks...

Tonight on Masterpiece Theat
Under The Greenwood Tree
Keely Hawes stars in this adaptation of Thomas Hardy's novel about
courtship and love in rural England in the 1870s. It is a moving and
funny romance charting the relationship of school teacher Fancy Day and
the laborer Dick Dewey through four seasons, from their first meeting
in winter to their eventual marriage -- under the greenwood tree -- in
autumn.

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Steve wrote:
No one in this group is bashing portables.

Thanks for finally helping me to understand why even some men are
nowadays referred to as "bitches".


Now that is an interesting word to use...speaks volumes about you and
your ....er... interests.

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Yo, buckwheat...you were the one who said:

"A $500 dollar portable is still just a portable. (It's also an
extremely bad deal, but that's a story for another time...)"

Before you can hope to post something meaningful, it is really
important that your bring you thinking and experience forward about 5
decades. Consider reading 25 years of back copies of publications such
as Monitoring Times, Passport to World Band Radio (and it's predecessor
RDI) and World Radio TV Handbook as a start.

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Steve wrote:
This kind of defensiveness speaks volumes. It's easy to tell when
someone has sunk a large amount of money into a receiver and then
regrets it. They have to make others pay for (what they perceive to be)
their mistake.


Actually for my first decent tabletop receiver I paid $400.00 new for
a Kenwood R5000, added the filters, memory option and a few other
goodies. After that I picked up a fully functional National HRO 500
for $25.00 plus commission at an auction.

But the radio that really got me started in SWLin'g was the
high-performing Sony 2010 Portable (before the R5000) that sold for way
under your magical number of $500.00 And yes it will outperform many
tabletops.

I'm at a complete loss as to what what you are talking about..., bud.
There are guys that will sink a lot of money into old communuications
receivers (R390) and some of the new comm stuff that comes on the used
market. But they really are basically just ego boosters for guys like
you aren't they.

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Old April 24th 06, 02:52 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Just stating the obvious, Sunshine.

Look, we've all made purchases we later felt bad about. No one is
criticizing you for it, but Jeez...you gotta own up to the mistake and
then move on. Continuing to twist your panties around isn't going to
get you anything...well, except maybe a rash or something.

Hope this helps.



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Old April 24th 06, 03:01 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Damn, I guess I really hit a nerve.

Congrats on the 2010. It was a pretty good deal in terms of price and
performance. At least you've owned one portable that you don't have to
feel defensive about.

As for the rest of your verbiage, I don't know what to tell you. If you
can't conduct a serious (or at any rate, halfway serious) conversation
about receivers, you came to the wrong place. I feel a little sorry for
you, since you're obviously out a lot of dough. At the same time, your
being all nasty and defensive ain't gonna hurt me, and it ain't gonna
make you any smarter. Just try to do a little research next time,
preferably BEFORE you make your purchase.

Hope this helps.

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Old April 24th 06, 03:21 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Steve wrote:

Congrats on the 2010. It was a pretty good deal in terms of price and
performance. At least you've owned one portable that you don't have to
feel defensive about.


Hmm, I bought a '2010 new in 1988 for $325 at Ham Radio Outlet, Atlanta
(Larry Galecki made the sale). Good radio, although it's no longer in
proper working order now. I did get my money's worth out of it,
though.

Of course, the dollar was worth more when I bought that radio. In 2006
dollars, we'd be talkin' about $530.75 for that purchase in 1988.

http://minneapolisfed.org/research/data/us/calc/

((Needless to say, I understand your argument, Steve: you're weighing
the cost of the E1 relative to other radios on the market today when
making the assessment that it's not a good value for you. Still, I
throw this out there because it's worthwhile to note that our dollar
has declined in value over time.))

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Old April 24th 06, 03:29 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Good point, Junius.

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Old April 24th 06, 03:31 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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John S. wrote:
Actually for my first decent tabletop receiver I paid $400.00 new for
a Kenwood R5000, added the filters, memory option and a few other
goodies.


Wow, where did you get a new R5000 for $400.00? I remember pricing
those back in 1989, and the best price I could find was $779.95....

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junius wrote:
John S. wrote:
Actually for my first decent tabletop receiver I paid $400.00 new for
a Kenwood R5000, added the filters, memory option and a few other
goodies.


Wow, where did you get a new R5000 for $400.00? I remember pricing
those back in 1989, and the best price I could find was $779.95....


Gilfer...(remember them) were selling them for a good price early on.
The yen went out of sight and Kenwood jacked the price up.

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