Steve N. wrote:
"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
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Hi Sal...

I have problems with most characters of four or more elements length.
Exceptions are period and Q, for some reason.

Since I don't do CW too much anymore, I have similar problems, and I've
been at it since 1961!
If I did it more, I'd probably get better and I'm not suggesting that you
"need more practice", just offering a little empthy... (:-)


[... snip ...] Oh yeah -- I know V because the dit-dit-dit-dah sounds
like the 1812 overture.


Ummm... I believe you are referring to ''Beethoven's fifth" di - di -
di - dah. di - di - di - dah. didididah, didididah, didididah...

I am realy gald you said that I was thinking it myself but......
73, Steve, K9DCI

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Steve N. wrote:
"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
news:Qt3ng.484$RD.249@fed1read08...
Hi Sal...

I have problems with most characters of four or more elements length.
Exceptions are period and Q, for some reason.

Since I don't do CW too much anymore, I have similar problems, and
I've
been at it since 1961!
If I did it more, I'd probably get better and I'm not suggesting that
you
"need more practice", just offering a little empthy... (:-)


[... snip ...] Oh yeah -- I know V because the dit-dit-dit-dah sounds
like the 1812 overture.


Ummm... I believe you are referring to ''Beethoven's fifth" di -
di -
di - dah. di - di - di - dah. didididah, didididah, didididah...

I am realy gald you said that I was thinking it myself but......
73, Steve, K9DCI


the 5th is the only classical piece i can think of that starts like that but
i'm sure there are more.

L is easy to remember. "to hell with it".

Gravity

RE THE SUBJECT TITLE
No one is eliminating the code, only the requirement to obtain a Ham license
Many will use CW for many years to come
Consider it an optional communication method.

RE : Morse musical and word associations
the 5th is the only classical piece i can think of that starts like that
but
i'm sure there are more.

L is easy to remember. "to hell with it".

Gravity



dah dah dit dah
Her comes the bride
She is a Queen for the day
Queen = Q

More associations at URL:
http://www.afn.org/~afn05925/cw/

dah dah dit dit -- stupid zebra did it

di dah di dah dit AR = You Think You Got It


--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !

"L is easy to remember. "to hell with it".

Thank you, I was haveing trouble confusing "F" and "L"

I got nothing against CW, but being kept out of amateur radio for 40+ years
cus I had difficulty learning the code, sucks.
Finally, I got enough right to barely pass the 5 wpm test. Still can't find
anybody slow enough for me to copy on the air.
If I ever get good enough to use it, I'll try a few homebrew transmitter
projects.

I expect there are some technically competent people who might be interested
in amateur radio, but have no interest in learning code.
John

If you want easy...and most of the CW whiners do...why don't you just hook
your laptop up to your DSL line and stay the hell off the air?

Jeez, you've got a pathetic joke for an exam now with canned questions to
memorize and no code to learn. Too bad you're not still in your mother's
womb so you don't have to feed yourselves. Though you have deluded
yourselves into believing you are "hams," you are hardly believable when you
wear that title. The only reason you have been able to slip through into the
dumbed-down requirements and some sort of fcc "license" sham is because your
appliance manufacturers that make your rigs and the charlatans like the arrl
are selling out the hobby so they can sell you things.

It's ALL ABOUT THE MONEY and you no-coder idiots have fallen for it.

As for traditional, genuine "hams, we may be from the "Stone Age," but once
the dinosauers became extinct the pristine landscape took on pollution and
overcrowding. You simpletons have all drank the Kool-Aid and cannot see that
you are parties to the eventual elimination of ham radio.

Thank God for "stone age hams," for at least there is someone still around
that knows something about the avocation.


"J. D. B." wrote in message
...
John,

Just get on digital modes. Don't worry about CW. Digital is where the
fun is and the copy is much better.

A buddy of mine in St. Louis and I experimented with low power and
various digital modes last night on 40 meters. CW was marginal. The
best was DominoEX with FEC - just about 100% all the time and it also
has a second channel to display additional information.

CW can be fun at times, but maybe it's not your thing. Let the
stone-age hams continue with CW, and move up and on to the digital modes.

MultiPSK, while a bit cluttered and ugly, is a great program you can
use. MixW is cleaner looking and very good, but not as many
capabilities in the program.

Move on and start having fun.

JDB

JOHN D wrote:


I got nothing against CW, but being kept out of amateur radio for 40+
years
cus I had difficulty learning the code, sucks.
Finally, I got enough right to barely pass the 5 wpm test. Still can't
find
anybody slow enough for me to copy on the air.
If I ever get good enough to use it, I'll try a few homebrew transmitter
projects.

I expect there are some technically competent people who might be
interested
in amateur radio, but have no interest in learning code.
John

JOHN D wrote:

Thank you, I was haveing trouble confusing "F" and "L"

Was it embarrassing when you sent "good luck"?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 08:15:50 -0500, "Smokey"
wrote:

As for traditional, genuine "hams, we may be from the "Stone Age," but once
the dinosauers became extinct the pristine landscape took on pollution and
overcrowding. You simpletons have all drank the Kool-Aid and cannot see that
you are parties to the eventual elimination of ham radio.

------------ REPLY SEPARATOR ------------

LOL!

This from someone who calls himself "Smokey" and does not post his
callsign.

Can you say "troll", boys and girls?

Bill, W6WRT

"J. D. B." wrote in message
...
John,

Just get on digital modes. Don't worry about CW. Digital is where the
fun is and the copy is much better.

A buddy of mine in St. Louis and I experimented with low power and various
digital modes last night on 40 meters. CW was marginal. The best was
DominoEX with FEC - just about 100% all the time and it also has a second
channel to display additional information.

CW can be fun at times, but maybe it's not your thing. Let the stone-age
hams continue with CW, and move up and on to the digital modes.

MultiPSK, while a bit cluttered and ugly, is a great program you can use.
MixW is cleaner looking and very good, but not as many capabilities in the
program.

Move on and start having fun.


You just don't get it do you. There are conditions for each mode that will
make that mode "the best". Every mode has its place. That goes for voice,
all the multiplicity of digital modes and yes CW. Last night you had the
best luck with DominoEx. Another night RTTY might be better. Another
night, voice might be more intelligible. Yet another night will favor CW.

Based on what I've read about DominoEX, it is a form of Multi-Frequency
Shift Keying. This variation looks to be more robust than others, however,
anything that can compromise FSK and MFSK has the potential to compromise
DominoEX. It will merely be a matter of the degree of severity needed
before it becomes unusable.

Just because something is old doesn't make it useless or stone age. Pencils
have been around far longer and are still highly useful.

Dee, N8UZE

Cecil Moore wrote:
JOHN D wrote:

Thank you, I was haveing trouble confusing "F" and "L"


Was it embarrassing when you sent "good luck"?


Actually it was a simple realization on my part that half the alphabet
was the mirror of the other. i.e. a/n f/l e/t etc. When I had this
epiphany I basically knew the code. All I had to do was learn to receive
it which I did successfully twice, once for my novice and once again
when I sat for my Tech before my novice license came. Passed both tests.
Haven't used it much since. My choice.

Dave WD9BDZ

Dee Flint wrote:
"J. D. B." wrote in message
...
John,

Just get on digital modes. Don't worry about CW. Digital is where the
fun is and the copy is much better.

A buddy of mine in St. Louis and I experimented with low power and various
digital modes last night on 40 meters. CW was marginal. The best was
DominoEX with FEC - just about 100% all the time and it also has a second
channel to display additional information.

CW can be fun at times, but maybe it's not your thing. Let the stone-age
hams continue with CW, and move up and on to the digital modes.

MultiPSK, while a bit cluttered and ugly, is a great program you can use.
MixW is cleaner looking and very good, but not as many capabilities in the
program.

Move on and start having fun.


You just don't get it do you. There are conditions for each mode that will
make that mode "the best". Every mode has its place. That goes for voice,
all the multiplicity of digital modes and yes CW. Last night you had the
best luck with DominoEx. Another night RTTY might be better. Another
night, voice might be more intelligible. Yet another night will favor CW.
no you don't get it

CW is in radio terms stone age, simol e fact stone does not mean
useless you lack of ability to use english is worse than my problem
with it you can't use words even though you can spell em

A stone club is still leathal does that mean the army should drill and
train with stone weapons?
CW is obselete like HMS Canpous at the battle of the Falklands, like
the Bowmen that fought with em in the retreat to Dunkirk .

utility does not preclude obselenece

LEARN ENGLISH esp when yo u lhave played spelling NAZI your self