Slow Code wrote:
1: No more

Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as
a requirement would help?

Bwhahahahaha.
----------------
Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD.

Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000:
Novice - 49,329
Tech/+ - 334,254
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total all classes - 674,792

Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006:
Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456)
Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012)
General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081)
Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029)
Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434)

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792)
Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788)
Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860)

We lost:
842 Novice
1,088 General
1,157 Advanced
3,087 Total

We Gained:
1,258 Tech/+
424 Extra
1,682 Total

This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period
and averages 467 per month for the quarter.

For the months March April and May the new licenses issued
break down as follows.

6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% **
627 General 8.0%
217 Extra 2.7%

Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849

** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive
website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org

Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each
decade from 1930.

Year Population # Hams Growth Rate
1930 123,202,624 19,000
1940 132,164,569 56,000 194%
1950 151,325,798 87,000 55%
1960 179,323,175 230,000 164%
1970 203,211,926 263,918 15%
1980 226,545,805 393,353 49%
1990 248,709,873 502,677 28%
2000 281,421,906 682,240 36%
2006 657,814 -3.6 %

The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006.

Travis Jordan wrote:
Slow Code wrote:

1: No more


Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as
a requirement would help?

Bwhahahahaha.
----------------
Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD.

Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000:
Novice - 49,329
Tech/+ - 334,254
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total all classes - 674,792

Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006:
Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456)
Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012)
General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081)
Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029)
Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434)

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792)
Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788)
Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860)

We lost:
842 Novice
1,088 General
1,157 Advanced
3,087 Total

We Gained:
1,258 Tech/+
424 Extra
1,682 Total

This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period
and averages 467 per month for the quarter.

For the months March April and May the new licenses issued
break down as follows.

6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% **
627 General 8.0%
217 Extra 2.7%

Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849

** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive
website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org

Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each
decade from 1930.

Year Population # Hams Growth Rate
1930 123,202,624 19,000
1940 132,164,569 56,000 194%
1950 151,325,798 87,000 55%
1960 179,323,175 230,000 164%
1970 203,211,926 263,918 15%
1980 226,545,805 393,353 49%
1990 248,709,873 502,677 28%
2000 281,421,906 682,240 36%
2006 657,814 -3.6 %

The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006.


I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham
radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now,
with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important.

This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue.

Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue.

Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very
commendable. I think, though, we've been sidelined.

We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved
remains high, from what I hear / read.

However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as
it used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute.

Communications have been "universalized"...anyone can use a cell phone.
It's natural that communications-specialists see their need waning.

It's OK.

As a hobby, ham radio has a LOT to offer. When I mention to others that
I have re-entered ham radio, many people ask "Is that still around?"

Man, of COURSE, it's still around.

If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the
Space Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF?
Sporadic E? Tropospheric Ducting? DX???

How about EME?

You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to let
everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about.

Morse, data, SSB, FM all have a place.

Ham radio is NOT dying. Hams are. Share our hobby, in ALL its forms,
generously with those you know. The rest will take care of itself, for
better or worse.

John
AB8O

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:58:07 GMT, "Travis Jordan"
wrote:

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Change 5/14/00 to 4/2/03 - *+*13068
Change 4/2/03 to 9/6/04 - -13072
Change 9/6/04 to 6/30/06 - -16974

What a perfect example if ignoring evidence that doesn't back up your
argument. There was no change in Morse from 5/14/00 to 4/2/03, yet we
GAINED over 13,000 hams, so how is a Morse requirement decreasing the
number of hams?

W H O T H E F U C K C A R E S ! ! ! !

THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR
LITTLE ****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!




jawod wrote:
Travis Jordan wrote:

Slow Code wrote:

1: No more



Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as
a requirement would help?

Bwhahahahaha.
----------------
Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD.

Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000:
Novice - 49,329
Tech/+ - 334,254
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total all classes - 674,792

Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006:
Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456)
Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012)
General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081)
Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029)
Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434)

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792)
Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788)
Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860)

We lost:
842 Novice
1,088 General
1,157 Advanced
3,087 Total

We Gained:
1,258 Tech/+
424 Extra
1,682 Total

This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period
and averages 467 per month for the quarter.

For the months March April and May the new licenses issued
break down as follows.

6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% **
627 General 8.0%
217 Extra 2.7%

Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849

** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive
website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org

Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each
decade from 1930.

Year Population # Hams Growth Rate
1930 123,202,624 19,000
1940 132,164,569 56,000 194%
1950 151,325,798 87,000 55%
1960 179,323,175 230,000 164%
1970 203,211,926 263,918 15%
1980 226,545,805 393,353 49%
1990 248,709,873 502,677 28%
2000 281,421,906 682,240 36%
2006 657,814 -3.6 %

The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006.


I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham
radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now,
with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important.

This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue.

Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue.

Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very
commendable. I think, though, we've been sidelined.

We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved
remains high, from what I hear / read.

However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as
it used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute.

Communications have been "universalized"...anyone can use a cell phone.
It's natural that communications-specialists see their need waning.

It's OK.

As a hobby, ham radio has a LOT to offer. When I mention to others that
I have re-entered ham radio, many people ask "Is that still around?"

Man, of COURSE, it's still around.

If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the
Space Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF?
Sporadic E? Tropospheric Ducting? DX???

How about EME?

You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to let
everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about.

Morse, data, SSB, FM all have a place.

Ham radio is NOT dying. Hams are. Share our hobby, in ALL its forms,
generously with those you know. The rest will take care of itself, for
better or worse.

John
AB8O


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jawod wrote:
Travis Jordan wrote:
Slow Code wrote:



I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham
radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now,
with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important.

This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue.
it is till it is gone

Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue.

Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very
commendable. I think, though, we've been sidelined.

We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved
remains high, from what I hear / read.

However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as
it used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute.
gee wonder if Robeson will flame for that statement
John
AB8O

The Kat wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:06:22 -0400, Al Klein wrote:



WHY in the **** are you continuing this thread
in a SCANNER newsgroup??




Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.

This sig censored by the Office of Home and Land Insecurity...

Remove XYZ to email me

Why did you give your ham radio away fool?

No 6 meters for you, one year!

The Kat wrote in
:

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:06:22 -0400, Al Klein
wrote:



WHY in the **** are you continuing this thread
in a SCANNER newsgroup??




Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.



Hey,

This thread is about CW and ham radio. You scanner assholes stay
out of it. Go find some police or fireman to listen to.

Sc

Slow Code wrote:
The Kat wrote in
:




Hey,

This thread is about CW and ham radio.
you started the thread in those gruops to troll them so you could bitch
when they complained

Nah, if ya can't beat 'em join 'em.... Help us out, we're making a Comm-Post
pile!

And my answer is this:

If someone took ham radio, let 'em have it. Fighting to get it back is like
fighting over a turd in the sewer.
Just enjoy what you have, and float on down the river, to your Cajun
hideaway.....
rb



"Travis Jordan" wrote in message
m...
Slow Code wrote:
1: No more

Please don't feed the trolls.