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![]() JJ wrote: definitely read that site someone posted earlier.. theheroinhelper.com or whatever it was.. also some needle exchange websites are helpful, just do a google search using keywords: harm reduction heroin i wont go into specific procedures but you should be seeing blood enter your syringe when you pull back the plunger if you have a vein. Also it burns like hell when you miss a vein so you should know if you hit or miss almost immediately. And if you do decide to use coke, use raw coke.. and then you definitely dont want to miss because a missed speedball or coke shot is likely to cause a nasty abcess. You mentioned that this seems cleaner.. well it wont seem that way for long because sooner or later you will start seeing the usual stains of carbon smoke around your house replaced with messy blood accidents ---be safe On 24 Nov 2006 06:09:09 -0800, "actonskin" wrote: Actonskin's 1st slam. Friday. Morning. 8:30am. Made the decision. By 11am was on another planet. Imagine there has been something you have wanted to do all your life. Something you think about most days - thoughts you cannot escape from. And then, one day, you actually get to do it for the first time, and that it's better than you can possibly have imagined. That's the way I'm feeling now. This is now definitely the best high I've ever had. I hope it lasts forever - I know it will fade out sometime, god I hope its not for a few hours. I'm savouring every moment. I'm not feeling sick ... having smoked the stuff for a couple of months, I think I'm through that now. It's quite strange - I'm getting all the heroin effects without having the smoky atmosphere. There's no bitter taste in my mouth from smoking it. No sooty marks anywhere. I'm not used to feeling this way without all that - it almost feels "too clean". Hitting up for the first time was a bit tricky. I had all the things I needed. There was even a mixing spoon and vitamin C supplied. However, I have two problems - a very shaky hand and very difficult to find veins (even experienced nurses in hospital have difficulty getting blood out of me). So I decided to take things very slowly indeed. (Actonskin - pinch yourself - is this really happening - have I really done it ?) All went well until I had the gun loaded, ready to shoot. I'd even managed not to spill anything, which I was amazed at (a usually very shaky hand combined with the excitement and fear of the moment was definitely a challenge !) (Ahhhh, things are beinning to slow down now ..... we've moved from the physical exterior warmth to the warming of the inner soul) I had the loaded weapon in one very shaky hand, my expectant vascular system in the other arm, and the tourniquet in my teeth (yes just like in those documentaries on TV and films). "Actonskin - you've been waiting many years for this moment - don't screw it up like everything else". Which vein to go for? Well, I could hardly see any. After a few attempts, I thought I found one, but with my shaky hand, it was very difficult pulling back to check. Very gingerly, I pressed the plunger in, which put up more resistance than I was expecting - did I really have a vein ? Oh well, soon I would know. "Actonskin's heart - you are hereby charged with conspiring to intoxicate Actonskin. How do you plead ?". My heart was definitely in on the act - now beating faster and harder - it is as if it was willing the chemical cocktail to get through as quickly as possible. And then ... nothing was happening. Had I missed ? Was there enough brown in the mixture ? I was feeling pretty normal. 4 or 5 minutes went past. Great. All this trouble for noth... THEN IT HIT. Oh my. Although actually hitting my brain, it felt like it was hitting every muscle and nerve in my body - it started with my legs, then rapidly the rest of me. This was amazing - quite different from what I was getting from smoking H. Whilst getting the wonderful physical buzz, I was still feeling quite clear-headed. I wasn't expecting this - I was really hoping for a serious nod. Anyway, I took advantage of my clear head, and put away my works. I don't want any trace of my activity to be found by my partner. The nod did come a little later - it kept me in its grip for a couple of hours or so. I can't tell you what I was thinking / experiencing there, as fortunately I was far too wasted to use a keyboard. So no more anguished "should I/shouldn't I" postings from Actonskin. Next decision is whether/when to stop. Judging by the size of the pack handed over to me by the very nice man at the chemist's, they don't want me to stop any time soon. Anyway I don't know whether shooting H should make you feel uplifted, but against all the other feelings I have as a result of the chemical effect of heroin, I do feel incredibly uplifted. I'm going to make damned sure I enjoy this while I can. Actonskin. I PUNCE |
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![]() MarQueerMyDear wrote: JJ wrote: definitely read that site someone posted earlier.. theheroinhelper.com or whatever it was.. also some needle exchange websites are helpful, just do a google search using keywords: harm reduction heroin i wont go into specific procedures but you should be seeing blood enter your syringe when you pull back the plunger if you have a vein. Also it burns like hell when you miss a vein so you should know if you hit or miss almost immediately. And if you do decide to use coke, use raw coke.. and then you definitely dont want to miss because a missed speedball or coke shot is likely to cause a nasty abcess. You mentioned that this seems cleaner.. well it wont seem that way for long because sooner or later you will start seeing the usual stains of carbon smoke around your house replaced with messy blood accidents ---be safe On 24 Nov 2006 06:09:09 -0800, "actonskin" wrote: Actonskin's 1st slam. Friday. Morning. 8:30am. Made the decision. By 11am was on another planet. Imagine there has been something you have wanted to do all your life. Something you think about most days - thoughts you cannot escape from. And then, one day, you actually get to do it for the first time, and that it's better than you can possibly have imagined. That's the way I'm feeling now. This is now definitely the best high I've ever had. I hope it lasts forever - I know it will fade out sometime, god I hope its not for a few hours. I'm savouring every moment. I'm not feeling sick ... having smoked the stuff for a couple of months, I think I'm through that now. It's quite strange - I'm getting all the heroin effects without having the smoky atmosphere. There's no bitter taste in my mouth from smoking it. No sooty marks anywhere. I'm not used to feeling this way without all that - it almost feels "too clean". Hitting up for the first time was a bit tricky. I had all the things I needed. There was even a mixing spoon and vitamin C supplied. However, I have two problems - a very shaky hand and very difficult to find veins (even experienced nurses in hospital have difficulty getting blood out of me). So I decided to take things very slowly indeed. (Actonskin - pinch yourself - is this really happening - have I really done it ?) All went well until I had the gun loaded, ready to shoot. I'd even managed not to spill anything, which I was amazed at (a usually very shaky hand combined with the excitement and fear of the moment was definitely a challenge !) (Ahhhh, things are beinning to slow down now ..... we've moved from the physical exterior warmth to the warming of the inner soul) I had the loaded weapon in one very shaky hand, my expectant vascular system in the other arm, and the tourniquet in my teeth (yes just like in those documentaries on TV and films). "Actonskin - you've been waiting many years for this moment - don't screw it up like everything else". Which vein to go for? Well, I could hardly see any. After a few attempts, I thought I found one, but with my shaky hand, it was very difficult pulling back to check. Very gingerly, I pressed the plunger in, which put up more resistance than I was expecting - did I really have a vein ? Oh well, soon I would know. "Actonskin's heart - you are hereby charged with conspiring to intoxicate Actonskin. How do you plead ?". My heart was definitely in on the act - now beating faster and harder - it is as if it was willing the chemical cocktail to get through as quickly as possible. And then ... nothing was happening. Had I missed ? Was there enough brown in the mixture ? I was feeling pretty normal. 4 or 5 minutes went past. Great. All this trouble for noth... THEN IT HIT. Oh my. Although actually hitting my brain, it felt like it was hitting every muscle and nerve in my body - it started with my legs, then rapidly the rest of me. This was amazing - quite different from what I was getting from smoking H. Whilst getting the wonderful physical buzz, I was still feeling quite clear-headed. I wasn't expecting this - I was really hoping for a serious nod. Anyway, I took advantage of my clear head, and put away my works. I don't want any trace of my activity to be found by my partner. The nod did come a little later - it kept me in its grip for a couple of hours or so. I can't tell you what I was thinking / experiencing there, as fortunately I was far too wasted to use a keyboard. So no more anguished "should I/shouldn't I" postings from Actonskin. Next decision is whether/when to stop. Judging by the size of the pack handed over to me by the very nice man at the chemist's, they don't want me to stop any time soon. Anyway I don't know whether shooting H should make you feel uplifted, but against all the other feelings I have as a result of the chemical effect of heroin, I do feel incredibly uplifted. I'm going to make damned sure I enjoy this while I can. Actonskin. I PUNCE I PUNCE |
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![]() I PUNCE wrote: MarQueerMyDear wrote: JJ wrote: definitely read that site someone posted earlier.. theheroinhelper.com or whatever it was.. also some needle exchange websites are helpful, just do a google search using keywords: harm reduction heroin i wont go into specific procedures but you should be seeing blood enter your syringe when you pull back the plunger if you have a vein. Also it burns like hell when you miss a vein so you should know if you hit or miss almost immediately. And if you do decide to use coke, use raw coke.. and then you definitely dont want to miss because a missed speedball or coke shot is likely to cause a nasty abcess. You mentioned that this seems cleaner.. well it wont seem that way for long because sooner or later you will start seeing the usual stains of carbon smoke around your house replaced with messy blood accidents ---be safe On 24 Nov 2006 06:09:09 -0800, "actonskin" wrote: Actonskin's 1st slam. Friday. Morning. 8:30am. Made the decision. By 11am was on another planet. Imagine there has been something you have wanted to do all your life. Something you think about most days - thoughts you cannot escape from. And then, one day, you actually get to do it for the first time, and that it's better than you can possibly have imagined. That's the way I'm feeling now. This is now definitely the best high I've ever had. I hope it lasts forever - I know it will fade out sometime, god I hope its not for a few hours. I'm savouring every moment. I'm not feeling sick ... having smoked the stuff for a couple of months, I think I'm through that now. It's quite strange - I'm getting all the heroin effects without having the smoky atmosphere. There's no bitter taste in my mouth from smoking it. No sooty marks anywhere. I'm not used to feeling this way without all that - it almost feels "too clean". Hitting up for the first time was a bit tricky. I had all the things I needed. There was even a mixing spoon and vitamin C supplied. However, I have two problems - a very shaky hand and very difficult to find veins (even experienced nurses in hospital have difficulty getting blood out of me). So I decided to take things very slowly indeed. (Actonskin - pinch yourself - is this really happening - have I really done it ?) All went well until I had the gun loaded, ready to shoot. I'd even managed not to spill anything, which I was amazed at (a usually very shaky hand combined with the excitement and fear of the moment was definitely a challenge !) (Ahhhh, things are beinning to slow down now ..... we've moved from the physical exterior warmth to the warming of the inner soul) I had the loaded weapon in one very shaky hand, my expectant vascular system in the other arm, and the tourniquet in my teeth (yes just like in those documentaries on TV and films). "Actonskin - you've been waiting many years for this moment - don't screw it up like everything else". Which vein to go for? Well, I could hardly see any. After a few attempts, I thought I found one, but with my shaky hand, it was very difficult pulling back to check. Very gingerly, I pressed the plunger in, which put up more resistance than I was expecting - did I really have a vein ? Oh well, soon I would know. "Actonskin's heart - you are hereby charged with conspiring to intoxicate Actonskin. How do you plead ?". My heart was definitely in on the act - now beating faster and harder - it is as if it was willing the chemical cocktail to get through as quickly as possible. And then ... nothing was happening. Had I missed ? Was there enough brown in the mixture ? I was feeling pretty normal. 4 or 5 minutes went past. Great. All this trouble for noth... THEN IT HIT. Oh my. Although actually hitting my brain, it felt like it was hitting every muscle and nerve in my body - it started with my legs, then rapidly the rest of me. This was amazing - quite different from what I was getting from smoking H. Whilst getting the wonderful physical buzz, I was still feeling quite clear-headed. I wasn't expecting this - I was really hoping for a serious nod. Anyway, I took advantage of my clear head, and put away my works. I don't want any trace of my activity to be found by my partner. The nod did come a little later - it kept me in its grip for a couple of hours or so. I can't tell you what I was thinking / experiencing there, as fortunately I was far too wasted to use a keyboard. So no more anguished "should I/shouldn't I" postings from Actonskin. Next decision is whether/when to stop. Judging by the size of the pack handed over to me by the very nice man at the chemist's, they don't want me to stop any time soon. Anyway I don't know whether shooting H should make you feel uplifted, but against all the other feelings I have as a result of the chemical effect of heroin, I do feel incredibly uplifted. I'm going to make damned sure I enjoy this while I can. Actonskin. I PUNCE I PUNCE I PUNCE ALLOVER MOPY'S FACE AND FINGER PAINT WITH THE PUNCE JUICE |
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![]() wrote: I PUNCE wrote: MarQueerMyDear wrote: JJ wrote: definitely read that site someone posted earlier.. theheroinhelper.com or whatever it was.. also some needle exchange websites are helpful, just do a google search using keywords: harm reduction heroin i wont go into specific procedures but you should be seeing blood enter your syringe when you pull back the plunger if you have a vein. Also it burns like hell when you miss a vein so you should know if you hit or miss almost immediately. And if you do decide to use coke, use raw coke.. and then you definitely dont want to miss because a missed speedball or coke shot is likely to cause a nasty abcess. You mentioned that this seems cleaner.. well it wont seem that way for long because sooner or later you will start seeing the usual stains of carbon smoke around your house replaced with messy blood accidents ---be safe On 24 Nov 2006 06:09:09 -0800, "actonskin" wrote: Actonskin's 1st slam. Friday. Morning. 8:30am. Made the decision. By 11am was on another planet. Imagine there has been something you have wanted to do all your life. Something you think about most days - thoughts you cannot escape from. And then, one day, you actually get to do it for the first time, and that it's better than you can possibly have imagined. That's the way I'm feeling now. This is now definitely the best high I've ever had. I hope it lasts forever - I know it will fade out sometime, god I hope its not for a few hours. I'm savouring every moment. I'm not feeling sick ... having smoked the stuff for a couple of months, I think I'm through that now. It's quite strange - I'm getting all the heroin effects without having the smoky atmosphere. There's no bitter taste in my mouth from smoking it. No sooty marks anywhere. I'm not used to feeling this way without all that - it almost feels "too clean". Hitting up for the first time was a bit tricky. I had all the things I needed. There was even a mixing spoon and vitamin C supplied. However, I have two problems - a very shaky hand and very difficult to find veins (even experienced nurses in hospital have difficulty getting blood out of me). So I decided to take things very slowly indeed. (Actonskin - pinch yourself - is this really happening - have I really done it ?) All went well until I had the gun loaded, ready to shoot. I'd even managed not to spill anything, which I was amazed at (a usually very shaky hand combined with the excitement and fear of the moment was definitely a challenge !) (Ahhhh, things are beinning to slow down now ..... we've moved from the physical exterior warmth to the warming of the inner soul) I had the loaded weapon in one very shaky hand, my expectant vascular system in the other arm, and the tourniquet in my teeth (yes just like in those documentaries on TV and films). "Actonskin - you've been waiting many years for this moment - don't screw it up like everything else". Which vein to go for? Well, I could hardly see any. After a few attempts, I thought I found one, but with my shaky hand, it was very difficult pulling back to check. Very gingerly, I pressed the plunger in, which put up more resistance than I was expecting - did I really have a vein ? Oh well, soon I would know. "Actonskin's heart - you are hereby charged with conspiring to intoxicate Actonskin. How do you plead ?". My heart was definitely in on the act - now beating faster and harder - it is as if it was willing the chemical cocktail to get through as quickly as possible. And then ... nothing was happening. Had I missed ? Was there enough brown in the mixture ? I was feeling pretty normal. 4 or 5 minutes went past. Great. All this trouble for noth... THEN IT HIT. Oh my. Although actually hitting my brain, it felt like it was hitting every muscle and nerve in my body - it started with my legs, then rapidly the rest of me. This was amazing - quite different from what I was getting from smoking H. Whilst getting the wonderful physical buzz, I was still feeling quite clear-headed. I wasn't expecting this - I was really hoping for a serious nod. Anyway, I took advantage of my clear head, and put away my works. I don't want any trace of my activity to be found by my partner. The nod did come a little later - it kept me in its grip for a couple of hours or so. I can't tell you what I was thinking / experiencing there, as fortunately I was far too wasted to use a keyboard. So no more anguished "should I/shouldn't I" postings from Actonskin. Next decision is whether/when to stop. Judging by the size of the pack handed over to me by the very nice man at the chemist's, they don't want me to stop any time soon. Anyway I don't know whether shooting H should make you feel uplifted, but against all the other feelings I have as a result of the chemical effect of heroin, I do feel incredibly uplifted. I'm going to make damned sure I enjoy this while I can. Actonskin. I PUNCE I PUNCE I PUNCE ALLOVER MOPY'S FACE AND FINGER PAINT WITH THE PUNCE JUICE I PUNCE ALLOVER GAV'S FACE AND MOPY LICKS IT CLEAN |
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Dipipanone is in itself a close relative of methadone. Now people put
down methadone but apparently when you shoot it, it's rather good. But the special magic ingredient is cyclizine, which is an antihistamine (officially put in the pills to stop nausea). It causes an amazing flash. When the potential for abuse came to light, the tablets were put on a special licence. There are only 3 drugs on the licence: diamorphine, cocaine, dipipanone but it IS still prescribed in the UK. People wishing to simulate the effect would crush methadone tablets with Valoid or Marezine (OTC motion-sickness pills containing cyclizine) and shoot that. People taking oral methadone apparently still get a hit if they shoot just cyclizine on top of it. There is a lot of research on the internet. Apparently, it boosts all opiates. It's also available on the internet without a prescription. In the US, Ts & blues was the same sort of thing. Tripelennamine in conjunction with Talwin. Then they reformulated Talwin with naloxone so you can't shoot it. Recent reports say that even humble diphenhydramine (Nyquil) will boost the hit if swallowed 45 minutes beforehand. If you could filter it from those big, bulky tablets then I would bet that a shot of this mixed with H would be just great. Now, the downside. Some people can 'chip' opiate without trouble, but the longer you chip, the more likely you are to become addicted. If you think that people like Dave Gahan, John Lennon, William S. Burroughs, Miles Davis who didn't die from the stuff, all said it was bad news. Burroughs lived a LONG time but was still on methadone until the day he died. Heroin is like religion, it gets people at their weakest point, when they feel like there is nowhere else to turn OR they have no self respect. I will give you all the facts, but having tried it & tried DMT, I would say DMT is better, safer & non-addictive. Take care. |
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![]() piglet wrote: People wishing to simulate the effect would crush methadone tablets with Valoid or Marezine (OTC motion-sickness pills containing cyclizine) and shoot that. Would you get the same effect if you took the tablets orally before hitting up with heroin? As you know, I'm very cautious ;-) and would be concerned about what other stuff was in the OTC tablets if I was going to crush them and include with the H. I will give you all the facts, but having tried it & tried DMT, I would say DMT is better, safer & non-addictive. For some reason have always feared hallucinogenic stuff - always want to be able to tell what is real from what is not. I've never felt very psychologically secure, and had a very bad trip taking strong skunkweed once, which triggered very bad depression.. I've therefore tended to steer clear of psychotropic drugs. A positive experience that I've had on H, is that when nodding it does bring your dreams much nearer the surface, without having them take over - it's almost like there is a creative stream of conciousness you can tap into when you want. I'm sure that's not a good reason for taking H, and I'm sure as tolerance builds up it would be more difficult to achieve, but at least it is one of the things I'm able to enjoy right now. Actonskin. |
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In message . com,
piglet writes Dipipanone is in itself a close relative of methadone. Now people put down methadone but apparently when you shoot it, it's rather good. But the special magic ingredient is cyclizine, which is an antihistamine (officially put in the pills to stop nausea). It causes an amazing flash. When the potential for abuse came to light, the tablets were put on a special licence. There are only 3 drugs on the licence: diamorphine, cocaine, dipipanone but it IS still prescribed in the UK. One wonders why Diconal still exists at all. I have seen it four times, my mother-in-law, (not really, she died before we got married) my mother and my brother-in-law. They are all dead, 1977, 1987 and 1992 respectively. They all had cancer and the book says dipianone is unsuitable for palliative care. (Shrugs) And him below. What I can tell you is that sometime between 1977 and 1982 the little pink darlings were coated with some type of plastic film and are near impossible to IV, certainly not safely. I once took a guy to A&E who had injected 50 over about a week. I have never seen phlebitis like it. He looked as though he had plunged both arms into a deep fat fryer, they practically glowed red. I had to cannulate a foot and every time we hit a bump a shriek followed and I jest not, I can even remember his name from 1982 (It was the day Prince Charles visited Swansea) So some fell into my grateful little hands and orally they are quite a pleasant way to watch TV. Thanks for letting me stroll down memory lane a bit but I really seriously wouldn't give them house room anymore, too much risk for too little joy. Nestor |
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![]() "MarQueerMyDear" wrote in message ups.com... wrote: I PUNCE MY TENTH PUNCE AND LIFE IS CHANGING! http://www.qsl.net/n0vfp/ |
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