well it was broadcast this past wedsday night. on local repeater here in
chicago in fact on 147.300 in joliet Illinois.. also on the area repeater on
147.135 i believe the repeater call was w9ypc
wrote in message
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In article ,
"Ric" wrote:

well you should listen to amateur radio news line bpl was denied by the
fcc


I checked and saw nothing from the FCC. I did see the Amsat joined the
ARRL in condeming the damn stuff, but nothing from FCC. Could you be
more specific, perhaps I looked at the wrong newsline issue. Anyway I
hope it's true, we sure don't need that crap.

73
Dale, K9VUJ
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Well lets look at the FCC Charter for Amateur Radio
§97.1 Basis and purpose.
The rules and regulations in this Part are designed to provide an amateur
radio service having a fundamental purpose as expressed in the following
principles:

(a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the
public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly with
respect to providing emergency communications.

Bingo!! Can Echolink be effective in an emergency -- Certainly can -
provided the whole internet doesn't collapse

(b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to contribute
to the advancement of the radio art.

Is Echolink an extension ? Sure looks like it to me -- pretty innovative if
you look at how it is accomplished

(c) Encouragement and improvement of the amateur service through rules which
provide for advancing skills in both the communications and technical phases
of the art.

Can hams communicate on Echolink to advance skills in both the
communications and technical phases of the art.

Don't see why not? Have had lots of tech talk on EchoLink as well as "Radio"

(d) Expansion of the existing reservoir within the amateur radio service of
trained operators, technicians, and electronics experts.

Some grounded Hams (HOA and no HFgear or privileges) may be encouraged to
get upgraded and on the air. For no-code Technicians - it is a way to reach
out beyond the local repeater and get a taste of DX

(e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to enhance
international goodwill.

Bingo!! Without a doubt -- many out of country contacts, help, hosting, and
friends can be and are made on Echolink

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Is it Radio? Is it Hamming ? Does it really make any difference ?

Just another way to communicate with other Hams, at least 137,000 Hams
currently think so!

Why not enjoy the benefits of both "Radio" and EchoLink ?


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Caveat Lector Ya All
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"James Nipper" wrote in message
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Exactly what does echolink and the internet have to do with ham radio ?

Yes, most of the users of echolink may be hams, but they are using the
internet to communicate, not ham radio. I am sure that is fun to some
folks, but it is far removed from ham radio !!

Not far removed -- Just EchoLinked with Joe in So Korea HL5xx -- we yakked
about antenna modelling, Yagis, and much Tech talk about Ham Radio

As I type this message, I am using the internet. Many hams will see this
message. But I AIN'T Hamming !!!!!!!!

But it will be mostly Hams who read it -- so maybe u are Hamming - hihi


Just my opinion............. no flames please !!
Wouldn't dream of it Jim.
We agree to disagree - right?


73 de Jim K4PYT

Well Jim
If I contact VK#xx on 20M and we talk about emergency orgs in our two
countries
or benefits of an antenna modeling program
or a mutual invite to visit each other should we travel ----- then we are
"Hamming".

If the band goes out and we switch to echolink and continue the QSO -- then
we are NOT "Hamming" !

If an emergency occurs and the Lids are jammed up on 2M -- thats hamming
If I use echolink and get thru -- thats not hamming ?

You made a very important point i.e., "they (Hams) are using the internet to
communicate"
Now that gotta be a good thing.
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Caveat Lector Ya All
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"James Nipper" wrote in message
...
Exactly what does echolink and the internet have to do with ham radio ?

Yes, most of the users of echolink may be hams, but they are using the
internet to communicate, not ham radio. I am sure that is fun to some
folks, but it is far removed from ham radio !!

As I type this message, I am using the internet. Many hams will see this
message. But I AIN'T Hamming !!!!!!!!


Just my opinion............. no flames please !!


73 de Jim K4PYT

In article ,
"Ric" wrote:

well it was broadcast this past wedsday night. on local repeater here in
chicago in fact on 147.300 in joliet Illinois.. also on the area repeater on
147.135 i believe the repeater call was w9ypc
wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Ric" wrote:

well you should listen to amateur radio news line bpl was denied by the
fcc


I checked and saw nothing from the FCC. I did see the Amsat joined the
ARRL in condeming the damn stuff, but nothing from FCC. Could you be
more specific, perhaps I looked at the wrong newsline issue. Anyway I
hope it's true, we sure don't need that crap.

73
Dale, K9VUJ
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I'll do some more checking, I may have had an old issue, thanks Ric.

73
Dale, K9VUJ
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To Caveat Lector :


Yes, yes, I agree 100 % that hams talking together on the internet is a
good thing, but my one and only point is that if you are talking on the
internet then you are INTERNETING NOT HAMMING !!!!!!!!!!!


This does not in any way cast a bad name on echo-linkers or whatever you
call them, it just states a fact of life that interneting isn't hamming. If
they have fun doing that, then I support them 100%. But to pretend that
talking on the internet has any connection whatsoever to ham radio is that
same as saying the quilt-making is the same thing as race car driving. You
can say that are the same, but it ain't so !!!!


73 de Jim K4PYT

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Well Jim
If I contact VK#xx on 20M and we talk about emergency orgs in our two
countries
or benefits of an antenna modeling program
or a mutual invite to visit each other should we travel ----- then we are
"Hamming".

If the band goes out and we switch to echolink and continue the QSO -- then
we are NOT "Hamming" !

If an emergency occurs and the Lids are jammed up on 2M -- thats hamming
If I use echolink and get thru -- thats not hamming ?

You made a very important point i.e., "they (Hams) are using the internet to
communicate"
Now that gotta be a good thing.
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73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All
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Very good James -- we can agree on that I am sure.

Interesting discussion and views.

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73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All
"James Nipper" wrote in message
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To Caveat Lector :


Yes, yes, I agree 100 % that hams talking together on the internet is a
good thing, but my one and only point is that if you are talking on the
internet then you are INTERNETING NOT HAMMING !!!!!!!!!!!


This does not in any way cast a bad name on echo-linkers or whatever you
call them, it just states a fact of life that interneting isn't hamming.
If
they have fun doing that, then I support them 100%. But to pretend
that
talking on the internet has any connection whatsoever to ham radio is that
same as saying the quilt-making is the same thing as race car driving.
You
can say that are the same, but it ain't so !!!!


73 de Jim K4PYT

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Well Jim
If I contact VK#xx on 20M and we talk about emergency orgs in our two
countries
or benefits of an antenna modeling program
or a mutual invite to visit each other should we travel ----- then we are
"Hamming".

If the band goes out and we switch to echolink and continue the QSO --
then
we are NOT "Hamming" !

If an emergency occurs and the Lids are jammed up on 2M -- thats hamming
If I use echolink and get thru -- thats not hamming ?

You made a very important point i.e., "they (Hams) are using the internet
to
communicate"
Now that gotta be a good thing.
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73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All
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Al Buterol wrote:


I'll post any place I please, Jitbag.

Do one better and apply your own rule to crossing the freeway.




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I think that most Echolink users would agree with you. I do and I use
Echolink many times a week.

Those that are crying loudly that Echolink is not ham radio, are merely
restating the obvious. What is the point? Who said it was ham radio anyway?
Not I.

Ed Cregger, NM2K


"James Nipper" wrote in message
...
Exactly what does echolink and the internet have to do with ham radio ?

Yes, most of the users of echolink may be hams, but they are using the
internet to communicate, not ham radio. I am sure that is fun to some
folks, but it is far removed from ham radio !!

As I type this message, I am using the internet. Many hams will see this
message. But I AIN'T Hamming !!!!!!!!


Just my opinion............. no flames please !!


73 de Jim K4PYT

Echolink is free, for the most part. Cellphones are not. If anything is
being replaced by Echolink, it is the conventional communications systems
that charge a fortune for nothing.

Ed Cregger, NM2K


"Zoran Brlecic" wrote in message
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Ric wrote:
again amen brother. Echolink has provided a great service to ham radio
...think of this . when cw of hf no longer does the job. pick up your
dtmf
mic dial in you node number talk to home no matter where you are.

There's already a gizmo that does this. It's called a cellphone.




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