I think that SSTV, Amtor, Packet, Satellites are irrelevant too! I had
to learn something about them to pass my exam didn't I? There are numerous
things that I'll never use and couldn't give a rats ass about that I had to
learn because it's part of the hobby. The only difference is between them &
CW is that CW is learned by ear, not by memorization. Sorry Bill, the
anti-code types are just a pack of seriously lazy people. CW is NOT the
reason ham radio has stagnated, it's because of technology (Internet).
Anyone with half an ounce of effort can pass the CW exam now.

Chuck WG2A
Also a 20 WPM extra

"Bill Turner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:26:22 -0500, "VE3TMT" wrote:

My 10 year old was copying 5 wpm after 2 weeks of
study, so what's so damn hard about it?

____________________

You're missing the essential point of the no-code people. The folks who
object don't see it as hard, they see it as irrelevant. None of us want
to expend our energy on something we see as useless to ourselves.

You may disagree on CW's relevance, but hey, we're all grownups - lets
make our own decisions, ok?

--
Bill W6WRT
a 20-WPM Extra

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:41:49 GMT, Mike Coslo
wrote:

We could get a lot more Hams if we dropped the writtens too!

- Mike KB3EIA -

YEAH!!

How DARE they "force feed" that stuff to us!

Stand up for your right to be ignorant of operating procedures,
technical standards and the rules and regs as WELL as CW. LOL!

Hehe - I think he doesn't get your point at all, Mike! He he!

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:26:01 GMT, Mike Coslo
wrote:

Bill Turner wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:41:49 GMT, Mike Coslo
wrote:


We could get a lot more Hams if we dropped the writtens too!

- Mike KB3EIA -


__________________________________________________ _______

If you want a lot more hams, that would do it. Would that be a good
idea?

Heck no! My point in all this is that right now, those who want to make
amateur radio reeeaaal easy are winning the game!

- Mike KB3EIA -

You entirely missed his point about patience, Bill!

Perhaps you don't work 6m

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:03:19 -0800, Bill Turner
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:23:22 -0500, wrote:

I'll stay on 6. From what I've seen, that band
requires skill and patience, something that the code-hater types don't
have....

_________________________________________________ ________

You can't be serious (at least about the skill part). If you want a
real challenge of your skill, both technical and operating, try 160
meter DX. Any yahoo with a store-bought beam and a modern transceiver
can work DX on six.

And if you really want a challenge, try the digital modes on 160. Who
will be the first to get DXCC on 160 with PSK31? Now *that* would be an
accomplishment worthy of respect.

I think that SSTV, Amtor, Packet, Satellites are irrelevant too! I had
to learn something about them to pass my exam didn't I?

Only a few questions. There wasn't an entire section that required knowledge of
those, which determined if you upgraded or not.

The only difference is between them &
CW is that CW is learned by ear, not by memorization.

Some argue that CW is nothing BUT memorization. You memorize the dits and dahs,
don't you?

CW is NOT the
reason ham radio has stagnated, it's because of technology (Internet).

I'd argue that technology has expanded ham radio.

Anyone with half an ounce of effort can pass the CW exam now.

And a lot of free time.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

Some argue that CW is nothing BUT memorization. You memorize the dits and
dahs,
don't you?

Of course you would know MORRRON

I'd argue that technology has expanded ham radio.


Yea right, Damn shame you MORRRRONS understand.

73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)

Andy whats your CB Callsign

Is it TRUE that most hams are Republicans?


On 19 Dec 2003 04:35:04 GMT, (WA8ULX) wrote:

Some argue that CW is nothing BUT memorization. You memorize the dits and
dahs,
don't you?

Of course you would know MORRRON

I'd argue that technology has expanded ham radio.


Yea right, Damn shame you MORRRRONS understand.

73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)

Andy whats your CB Callsign

90% or more

wrote in message
...
Is it TRUE that most hams are Republicans?


On 19 Dec 2003 04:35:04 GMT, (WA8ULX) wrote:

Some argue that CW is nothing BUT memorization. You memorize the dits
and
dahs,
don't you?

Of course you would know MORRRON

I'd argue that technology has expanded ham radio.


Yea right, Damn shame you MORRRRONS understand.

73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)

Andy whats your CB Callsign

Is it TRUE that most hams are Republicans?

Have no Idea.
What is true is, most CBplusser Knuckle Draggers are Democrats.

5WPM Bill, 5WPM, how much more easy does it have to be? The written is
simple & the CW test a joke. I know of 7 year olds that passed a 5WPM CW
test & are still licensed hams today, no Doctorates, just determined.

Chuck WG2A

"Bill Turner" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:21:25 GMT, "Chas" wrote:

Sorry Bill, the
anti-code types are just a pack of seriously lazy people.

____________________

I know several people with doctoral degrees who are utterly turned off
of ham radio by the code requirement. Do you honestly think someone who
persevered through eight years of college is "lazy"?

Your attempt to paint all anti-code people with the same brush just
doesn't work.

--
Bill W6WRT