On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 01:50:24 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote:

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Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote:

It doesn't have to say cell. If you would know that the 800 mhz band is
cell, you can just assume it's in there if not blocked adn you didn't say
anything about blocked. Don't be such a dick when a guy is trying to
explain something to you. YOu end up with some attitude adn some
reference to a cat which makes no sense and makes you sound like the lid.
Some post also ask if this was a trunking scanner? If it's not trunked,
you're going to sell a basically worthless piece of gear because,
excluding cell in the 800 meg band, the only other thing there of
interest is police and they are practically all, trunked.
The guy is trying to say it's against the law to sell equipment that is
not blocked for illegal freqs like the 800 meg band, that's all. He then
says you are selling a radio for a premium price that isn't going to copy
much of what is going on with the 800 meg band. Pure and simple since
you're talking about simple.
YOu mention lid but if you are not aware of cell blocked 800 mhz
requirments and trunked capabilities that your radio doesn't have, you
might be the lid.
If you have bad day, keep it to yourself and don't be a dick to the whole
world.
I guess then I should say the surface mount device is in place.
Does this make the scanner legal? Shall I sell my Alinco DR-570T?
I am certainly aware of the scanners capabilities but if it is stock why should it matter?





Donnie (N4JZH)

''Behold how good and well brethren dwell together in unity''

I challenge anyone here to show me in the FCC regulations that it
illegal to sell a scanning receiver that was manufactured prior to
April 1994.

The FCC stated in Section 15, CFR 47, "...Further, scanning receivers
that comply with the current rules will be permitted to be
manufactured or imported into the United States for up to one hundred
and eighty days after publication of this Report and Order in the
Federal Register. However, equipment manufactured or imported into
the United States after one hundred and eighty days from the date of
publication of this Report and Order in the Federal Register must
comply with the new rules." Further........

Section 15.37 Transition provisions for compliance with the rules.

(f) The manufacture or importation of scanning receivers, and
frequency converters designed or marketed for use with scanning
receivers, that do not comply with the provisions of § 15.121(a)(1)
shall cease on or before April 26, 1994. Effective April 26, 1993,
the Commission will not grant equipment authorization for receivers
that do not comply with the provisions of § 15.121(a)(1). This
paragraph does not prohibit the sale or use of authorized receivers
manufactured in the United States, or imported into the United States,
prior to April 26, 1994.

This makes it pretty clear that selling a BC200XLT does not in any way
violate Section 15 of CFR 47. USING the scanner to listen to cellular
frequencies is another matter, and is prohibited.

Ref: FCC 99-58, dated March 29, 1999

Dick - W6CCD


On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 01:50:24 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
wrote:

In article
Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote:

It doesn't have to say cell. If you would know that the 800 mhz band is
cell, you can just assume it's in there if not blocked adn you didn't say
anything about blocked. Don't be such a dick when a guy is trying to
explain something to you. YOu end up with some attitude adn some
reference to a cat which makes no sense and makes you sound like the lid.
Some post also ask if this was a trunking scanner? If it's not trunked,
you're going to sell a basically worthless piece of gear because,
excluding cell in the 800 meg band, the only other thing there of
interest is police and they are practically all, trunked.
The guy is trying to say it's against the law to sell equipment that is
not blocked for illegal freqs like the 800 meg band, that's all. He then
says you are selling a radio for a premium price that isn't going to copy
much of what is going on with the 800 meg band. Pure and simple since
you're talking about simple.
YOu mention lid but if you are not aware of cell blocked 800 mhz
requirments and trunked capabilities that your radio doesn't have, you
might be the lid.
If you have bad day, keep it to yourself and don't be a dick to the whole
world.

Yawn

lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote:

In article rYTUb.16259$EW.6734@okepread02
Harry wrote:

What a moron you are harry. You figured that all out by yourself?
bbbbbbbbbbwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaa No, you're the one
in the ****ter now. Flush your ass so you can go play vhf radio you
faggot tech.
FLUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH
(that's the same of plonk momma's boy.

lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote:

Well you're talkin' now and I bet you don't tell people to "step off"
unless you're behind your keyboard. I'm not too far from Titville and a
quick drive across 4 and I'm at your door. Aren't you right right off 50
near Gray Ave? Step off you say? ****y little Technician class.


Well big mouth, I have been here all night and You
did not show up. You know who I am and where I live
but you on the other hand have to hide.

You are in the kill file coward.

BRAVO!
Could not have said it better myself!!!!!!!!!!!
In fact I did say it from time to time to many of the know-it-alls!!
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Dick wrote:

There is nothing illegal about the BC200XLT. They were manufactured
before April 1994. The ruling doesn't apply to private sales.

On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 14:59:19 +0100 (CET), Anonymous via the
Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:

In article
Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote:

Are you saying then that this is an illegal radio since it doesn't have
the cell freqs blocked but is continuous coverage? Since it's illegal to
monitor knowingly the cell channels, the only thing left might be
police/fire etc and most are trunked these days. Without trunking, you
won't hear much. I don't see on any searches that this is a trunking
capable monitor.

"Cell Blocked means that the USA cellular phone frequencies are "blocked"
from being entered into the Radio Scanner. As of April, 1994, ALL
scanners sold in the USA must be Cellular Deleted (Blocked) by the
manufacturer, and all scanners Uniden offers are cell blocked."

With all the nonsense about this now I see why many people
go to Ebay. The same people that cry about items like this also cry
that people don't sell much here anymore. The guy who is selling the
BC-200XLT
should put it on Ebay. He will get a better price and not have to put up with
all
the know-it-alls and their nasty comments!!
Seems like they cut off their nose to spite their face.
==============================================

Dick wrote:

I challenge anyone here to show me in the FCC regulations that it
illegal to sell a scanning receiver that was manufactured prior to
April 1994.

HERE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


"Mark" wrote in message
...
With all the nonsense about this now I see why many people
go to Ebay. The same people that cry about items like this also cry
that people don't sell much here anymore. The guy who is selling the
BC-200XLT
should put it on Ebay. He will get a better price and not have to put up
with
all
the know-it-alls and their nasty comments!!
Seems like they cut off their nose to spite their face.
==============================================

Dick wrote:

I challenge anyone here to show me in the FCC regulations that it
illegal to sell a scanning receiver that was manufactured prior to
April 1994.

On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:36:52 -0500, Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote:

Near Mint Uniden BC200 XLT 800MHZ 200 channel scanner. 29.0 thru 956mhz
This unit is clean as a pin and will arrive to your home insured with:
Scanner, Leather Carry Case, AC/DC Adapter and a PDF printed owners manual.
$175 to the door.




Donnie (N4JZH)

''Behold how good and well brethren dwell together in unity''

Thanks Mark, Harry and Dick,

I have been a trader here for several years, ask anyone on this group they will tell you I have
never been dishonest, deceptive or left ANYONE holding a worthless piece of equipment. I have NEVER
run into any problems with the gear I advertise and sell here until I posted this scanner, It
appears that we have a few peter wrinkles who troll the newsgroups policing what people sell.

It is my opinion that unless you are a perspective buyer and are ready to make a purchase then yes
ask those questions here on this forum or get them answered via private email. I you aren't a
perspective buyer, it's best that you sit on that stump you climbed down from and suck your thumb.

My add clearly stated:

Near Mint Uniden BC200 XLT 800MHZ 200 channel scanner. 29.0 thru 956mhz.
This unit is clean as a pin and will arrive to your home insured with:
Scanner, Leather Carry Case, AC/DC Adapter and a PDF printed owners manual.$175 to the door.

No mention of trunking, cellular or full spectrum. What is deceptive about that description? It's
just a police scanner.

In closing, thanks for every ones continued support, I will continue to be the ham whose reputation
speaks for itself. Just ask around...

Donnie






Donnie (N4JZH)

''Behold how good and well brethren dwell together in unity''

The point I was trying to make was that it is OK for a private
individual to sell a used, pre-1994 scanner, but it is not OK for a
manufacturer (or anyone else) to sell an unblocked post-1994 scanner.
I didn't carry it through far enough as it would also be OK for a
dealer to sell a pre-1994 scanner. I should have made that more
clear.

Dick - W6CCD

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 18:00:03 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
wrote:

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Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote:

.. It's amusing to read that "it's
ok on private sales" even though this is a widely PUBLIC forum, read by
tens of thousands as would be eBay if you went there. Whether you are a
"public" store with credentials for selling as a business makes little
difference if you advertise publicly. There is nothing private about the
internet and that argument holds water like a leaky bucket.

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 22:10:07 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
wrote:

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Dick wrote:

I'm still not completely sold on that theory but for now, why not.

It's not a theory. The FCC very clearly stated in their clarification
memorandum of March 29, 1999 that, in the rules for blocked scanners,
there was no intention to prohibit the sale of pre April 1994
scanners. Note that this memorandum was issued some 5 years after the
rules were published, so it is obvious that they were not putting a
time limit on the sale of pre April 1994 scanners.

Dick