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RST Engineering wrote:

Money talks, bull**** walks.

Jim

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Not so pal, just the opposite. Bull****ters talk forever, money steps
up and quietly does the job.

Bill T.

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Bob Miller wrote:

If you don't fly it, there is no incentive to restore it, other than
cosmetically. I suspect there wouldn't be nearly as many people
preserving these old warbirds, were it not for a chance to pilot or
ride in the things.



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The word "Smithsonian" comes to mind. Thank goodness they have some
common sense.

I suppose if you had the original Apollo 11 command module you'd want
to sell rides in that too.

Bill T.

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Spokesman wrote:

Then don't complain about what other people are doing!



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And the Head Up the Ass award goes to.... Spokesman, who complains
about what other people are doing by telling them not to complain about
what other people are doing.

I'm sure the award went right over his head. Someone explain it to him,
please.

Bill T.

"Bill Turner" wrote in message
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Spokesman wrote:

Then don't complain about what other people are doing!



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And the Head Up the Ass award goes to.... Spokesman, who complains
about what other people are doing by telling them not to complain about
what other people are doing.

I'm sure the award went right over his head. Someone explain it to him,
please.

Who cares..... If I ever get to a point where I am senile enough to get into
a ****ing contest because somebody said not to get ugly, then just shoot me.

-n6ojn

On 24 Mar 2006 17:05:51 -0500, "Bill Turner" wrote:

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Bob Miller wrote:

If you don't fly it, there is no incentive to restore it, other than
cosmetically. I suspect there wouldn't be nearly as many people
preserving these old warbirds, were it not for a chance to pilot or
ride in the things.



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The word "Smithsonian" comes to mind. Thank goodness they have some
common sense.

The Smithsonian is certainly a fine museum. But I think there is a
place for stored, museum-only aircraft strictly for display purposes,
as well as for fully-restored, flyable historical aircraft that are
used to tour the country and put on air shows. The idea that it has to
be all one or the other is new to me, and has little merit.


I suppose if you had the original Apollo 11 command module you'd want
to sell rides in that too.

I've "ridden" in that module, via actual rocket-camera film, and it
was a hell of a ride, seeing the earth falling behind at great speed.
Not too practical, getting such a pod in flyable condition, tho'

bob
k5qwg


Bill T.

"Bill Turner" wrote in message
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-=H=- wrote:

We will survive. Let's
just stop all of the arguing and whining. This isn't
the right forum for it.



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Very interesting that the post asking to stop the arguing and whining
is the longest post of all, by far. In a nutshell, that's the problem.
Only your thoughts are important, only your desires are valid, what you
want is primary above all.

As long as folks like you own these priceless relics, someday the last
one will be reduced to scrap. What a shame.


The answer is still the same. If you don't want the airplane to fly then
YOU should buy it and put it on static display in your workshop.

If you don't want to buy it then let the people who are willing to
restore it use it as a flying museum.


Bill T.

In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Bill Turner wrote:

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As long as folks like you own these priceless relics, someday the last
one will be reduced to scrap. What a shame.

Bill T.

No one is keeping YOU from gathering money for acquisition, restoration,
and floor space for a static display.

Or is it just easier for you to **** and moan about the people that are
actually doing something without any personal involvement on your part
other than your ****ing and moaning?

--
Jim Pennino

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In article ,
Bill Turner wrote:
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

-=H=- wrote:

We will survive. Let's
just stop all of the arguing and whining. This isn't
the right forum for it.



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Very interesting that the post asking to stop the arguing and whining
is the longest post of all, by far. In a nutshell, that's the problem.
Only your thoughts are important, only your desires are valid, what you
want is primary above all.

Yet you think *you* have the right to dictate to the people that own and
pay for those craft what _they_ "should" do with their own property.


As long as folks like you own these priceless relics, someday the last
one will be reduced to scrap. What a shame.

Which will have absolutely *zero* effect on the number of non-flying
"relics" on static display.

Available evidence suggests (*very* strongly, too) that "more or less
*NOBODY*" wants to spend the money to preserve such static non-flying
display aircraft. That *those* aircraft are being 'reduced to scrap'
_today_, for lack of interest. "What a shame", indeed.

Not to put too fine a point on it, how much money have _you_ donated to
the support of _any_ "non-flying B-17 static display" organization?

It's always easier to spend somebody else's money, isn't it?

I suspect the appellation 'hypocrite' applies.

In article ,
Bill Turner wrote:
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

RST Engineering wrote:

Money talks, bull**** walks.

Jim

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Not so pal, just the opposite. Bull****ters talk forever, money steps
up and quietly does the job.

Bill T.

And you, by your own admission are "all talk, and no money", critizing
those who _have_ 'stepped up and are doing the job'.

At least you recognize your own shoe.

Absolutely, I get it.

Not.


You and the two or three posters who agree with you are self-centered
pigs who care nothing about preserving history.

I take it you don't speak face-to-face with others very often?
Your low-brow approach to debate is, if nothing else, good for a chuckle.

Looks like you just enjoy arguing without reason; because you're completely
unarmed,
and going in pointless circles with your posts. Try to make a valid point,
please.

Your temporary
adrenaline rush is much more important, and the risk of splattering a
priceless aircraft means nothing beside your momentary thrills. How sad
that people like you are allowed to own such an aircraft.

LOL... four words: lost ball, high weeds.
What does your above statement even mean???

FYI: Don't EVER research the film industry for any reason.


A hundred or five hundred years from now, if your ilk prevails, people
will be saying "Gosh, I wish someone had kept a B-17G preserved
somewhere. I would have really loved to see the real thing".

Wow...? Not sure what to say to that after reading your cumulative posts.
First, please refer to the "lost ball" statement above, then
try to do some research on vintage aircraft clubs, museums, owners and
current displays.


I hope and pray there are not many like you.

Plane-loads! And no thanks to you, we sit about debating whether or not a
Neanderthal with a superiority complex is a paradox.

Mister, it's painfully obvious that your intent is not to prove a point, nor
offer a reasonable debate; but to simply try and talk others down.
You must have a very hollow existence.

I hope and pray you can find a better way to spend your time.

rb