Fred Hambrecht wrote:
If you read beyond that line, you would have seen I was fulfilling the
expectations of the no code troll...

you were the stand procode jerk you mean

Fred HaFrom: Fred Hambrecht on Sat, Sep 2 2006 6:02 pm

I extend fellowship to REAL hams, you no code idiots are not hams, simply
CBers that have the ability to read at a third grade level.

Tsk, tsk, Fred. Had you been able to read RRAP before, you'd
know I have no amateur license, only a commercial one. :-)

So, you think that US amateur radio is defined ONLY by
morsemanship? Of course you do. You are unable to cope
with any other definition. The FCC doesn't think so,
Congenial Fred. Only you and the rabid olde-tyme
morsemen think so.

Everyone serves a purpose, even if only as a bad example...

You fill that bill to a "T" Congenial Fred. :-)

No code, non
showering, non intellectial, whiners holding welfare licenses meet that
criteria to a "T".

"Non showering?" :-) Shirley, you can think of some
metaphor better than that! :-)

"Non intellectial?" Oh, you mean 'non intellectual."
Tsk, tsk, Congenial Fred, if you wish to appear 'intellectual'
you really ought to learn to spell correctly... :-)

"Whiners?" Poor congenial Fred, can't understand that there
are several valid reasons being held by the majority AGAINST
morse code testing. You want to impose YOUR imperial will
on the majority... Tsk, tsk, not a nice democratic
principle idea.

"Welfare licenses?" I got my First 'Phone in 1956, one test
session at the Chicago Field Office of the FCC. Had to pay
my own way in on the train. No snow, ground was level, and
I kept my shoes on the whole time. Guess that isn't near as
good as all them olde-tymers in the ham boonies, huh? :-)

Now that you have been responded to in the manner you accuse all code able
hams of, you may cease your trolling...

Fred, you've shown yourself to be a first class morse BIGOT,
one with a totally closed mind who lives in the past. But,
that's not unusual among some of you kids (your birth year is
1939 but mine is earlier). After you hit the magic 65-year
mark you go all shirty and start whining yourself about how
"tough" YOU had it and how "loyal and principled" you are
and how the "younger generation is no damn good" because they
don't like YOUR ideals of a long-ago youth. I know, I've seen
it hundreds of times...and am damn glad I never succumbed to
such mental sickness. :-)

Oh, and I do NOT "accuse all code able hams" of anything, only
YOU, Fred Hambrecht, and all the other morsemen bigots who
trash-mouth everyone who doesn't care for morsemanship.

I don't "troll," congenial Fred, I CATCH. I've presented my
views before the FCC clearly, logically, with facts researched
and noted. Many times. I don't sing praises about morse code
or testing for the simple reason that there's no praise for
either.

I don't really give a flip one way or another if you ever know code, I just
wish the bunch of you would stop playing "pity me" and lamenting the fact
you do not have a no code Jesse Jackson type to take up your cause.

Tsk, are you a racial bigot ALSO? I'm not black, congenial
Fred, don't fake any religious titles nor academic titles nor
the usual bragging bull**** common to so many amateurs. I've
been on this planet longer than you have and made my own way
without asking for welfare. Up yours and enjoy your food stamps.

Well, maybe no "Jesse Jackson" but you pro-code-test mavens DO
have the Church of St. Hiram on your side plus all the Brother
Believers in Newington alla time singing the praises of
"cee-double-yew" that all good maxim-fearers must follow.
To the letter. To a "T."

You have
a license, enjoy it and if you don't care to learn the code, someday you
won't have to.

I have a license, Freddie baby, but it NEVER had any requirement
to learn morsemanship skills. I've had other FCC licenses,
Freddie, and those didn't have any need to learn code. Of course
those were all commercial-professional, not the mighty amateur
kind (which you no doubt consider much, much more valuable).

Freddie booby, 53 1/2 years ago the US Army had me and
several others starting to operate HF transmitters of higher
output power than was ever allowed to amateurs. NO license
test needed. NO morsemanship skills needed...NO morse code
modes were used to keep dozens of circuits open 24/7.

I didn't have to know or learn morsemanship over a half century
ago and haven't needed it in all the time up to now. You come
along like some adolescent male and talk trash to me and other
no-code-test advocates and say I "must?" Oh, my, you must
think your morsemanship skills are super-macho with
superpowers!

In the mean time shut up with the whining and get on with
life.

Shut your own, bigot Freddie. You get NO breaks acting
like a morseman bigot. Bigots don't deserve any civility.

"My life" is going on just dandy without you, Freddie. Try
to stay out of it. Intrude on it and you get stepped on.

The license is only worth the investment you have in it, no effort - no
value!

Oh, wow, trotting out the "moral paragon" ploy are you? :-)

Sounds like you are getting ready to enter the seminary at
the blessed Church of St. Hiram!

If you spent half the time learning as you do bitching you would be
at 40 WPM.

One "learns" a psycho-motor skill? :-) It is DEVELOPED,
Freddie boy, isn't one damn thing "intellectual" about it.

Pressing the government for a change in certain laws, such
as the regulations concerning amateur radio licensing, isn't
"bitching," colonial Fred. It is simply a democratic
process to change archaic laws and regulations that have no
use today. But, you fear change. Such might detract from
your mighty self-image of an amateur morseman, god of radio,
and ruler of the ham-ways. :-)

Or is it that you want to CONTROL others, have them do as
YOU command and to hell with democratic principles of law?
Clarify that for us, Freddie, you seem to be swinging both
ways.

Freddie, there is zero-point-zero interest in "learning"
any psycho's motor skill in this new millennium. It isn't
used for communications in any other radio service under
USA regulations and won't be...except in the time-retarded
imaginations of some US radio amateurs who dream of ever-
lasting glory of the beeperman.

There is one helluvalot MORE INTERESTING, INTELLECTUAL
things to do in learning the theory behind the front
panel. Don't speak blithering drivel about "beauty and
majesty" of monotonic on-off tones while caressing your
vibroplex...the only "theory" there is turning something
on and turning something off. You can do that with a
buzzer if it turns you on so strong.

You want to do 40 words per minute using morse? Fine.
Go for it. I've been doing ONE HUNDRED TIMES that with
data and that's at a slow speed. The world's comms aren't
about manual telegraphy, Freddie, that's a long-past time
that began before you and I were born. It is OLD stuff.

Now you go right ahead and enjoy your "ARS" (Archaic
Radiotelegraphy Society). I'm sure you feel all
authoritative with your federal AMATEUR license and all.
Tell everyone you are "federally authorized." Invite
your friend and neighbors in to view your mighty license
certificates (suitable for framing). Feel proud for you
are a MORSEMAN! [god of radio, ruler of the ham-ways,
etc., etc., etc.]

Beep, beep

wrote:
From: on Sat, Sep 2 2006 3:43 pm


Fred Hambrecht wrote:
We are better than you! Was there ever any doubt? If you can't learn code
you are not only stupid but lazy as well! You have a welfare license, shut
up and enjoy what was given to your whining ass...

Mr Congenialty has spoken.

Brian, sudden realization! We may have found the illegitimate
biological father of Stebie Robeson!

Same ego, same "better than you" bad attitude, same lack of good
fellowship, same 9-year-old's sass, same-o same-o! Incredible!

Then again he may be a cousin to that anony-mousie "Slow Code."
Lots of inbreeding going on in the morsemen ranks.

The family tree has few branches.

I wonder where Jimmy Noserve is hiding? Fred said "shut up!"
Jimmy would have a hissy fit if'n he saw that...:-)

I wonder where robesin is hiding? Fred said "ass..."



Welp, if Fred had a tour in Ohio as an Army recruiter back in the 70s...

wrote:
Fred Hambrecht wrote:
We are better than you! Was there ever any doubt? If you can't learn code
you are not only stupid but lazy as well! You have a welfare license, shut
up and enjoy what was given to your whining ass...

Mr Congenialty has spoken.

(snare-drum rim shot....)

N0IMD has spoken.

Steve, K4YZ

Fred Hambrecht wrote:

If you read beyond that line, you would have seen I was fulfilling the
expectations of the no code troll...

Mr Benevolent Congeniality, while it may be your desire to fulfill the
wishes ot the no-code troll, there are just too many trolls on RRAP. I
you go around and start fufilling the expectations of all trolls, this
newsgroup will end up being trashed and unreadable.

Do you want that on your conscience?

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
Fred Hambrecht wrote:
We are better than you! Was there ever any doubt? If you can't learn code
you are not only stupid but lazy as well! You have a welfare license, shut
up and enjoy what was given to your whining ass...

Mr Congenialty has spoken.

(snare-drum rim shot....)

N0IMD has spoken.

Steve, K4YZ

("in the navy" playing)

The War Hero has spoken/

Wah! Wah! Wah! Boo fricken Hoo... the mean old coder is picking on me... Get
a life! Anyone that can get that emotional over not getting their way has
more issues than not being able to copy code.

You may want to consult a mental health worker...

"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Fred Hambrecht wrote:
If you read beyond that line, you would have seen I was fulfilling the
expectations of the no code troll...

you were the stand procode jerk you mean

From: on Sun, Sep 3 2006 6:17 am

wrote:
From: on Sat, Sep 2 2006 3:43 pm
Fred Hambrecht wrote:

We are better than you! Was there ever any doubt? If you can't learn code
you are not only stupid but lazy as well! You have a welfare license, shut
up and enjoy what was given to your whining ass...

Mr Congenialty has spoken.

Brian, sudden realization! We may have found the illegitimate
biological father of Stebie Robeson!

Same ego, same "better than you" bad attitude, same lack of good
fellowship, same 9-year-old's sass, same-o same-o! Incredible!

Then again he may be a cousin to that anony-mousie "Slow Code."
Lots of inbreeding going on in the morsemen ranks.

The family tree has few branches.

The roots are dead, petrified (of change).

I wonder where Jimmy Noserve is hiding? Fred said "shut up!"
Jimmy would have a hissy fit if'n he saw that...:-)

I wonder where robesin is hiding? Fred said "ass..."

Jimmie Noserve showed up with his bimonthly Numbers (his period
on?)...still trying to "prove" that Technician class licensees
aren't really no-coders. :-)

Robeson showed up wondering who "Robesin" is...only proving that
the poor guy can't realize it is himself. He always was
illiterate in regards to alliteration.


Welp, if Fred had a tour in Ohio as an Army recruiter back in the 70s...

Ya know, that always bothered me. Why would an ex-NAVY person
be "recruiting for the ARMY"? [explanation for the trash-mouth
newcomers: Robesin once claimed - in here - that was what his
late father did, but didn't say when or exactly where] The Army
has always used active-duty Army NCOs for such tasks since before
1973 (the ending of the "Draft"). Strange LIE by Robeson, must
have been done at time of some bad goods he swiped out of the
Sharps box.

A "Sharps box" is colloquial term for a plastic container
(usually wall mounted) for biological waste in medical
facilities, sometimes referred to as just a "Sharps." Made by
B. D. Sharps company and not affiliated with the dullness of
the pro-coders. They can be seen in most doctors' offices
and hospitals all over the country.

Robesin is going to come back and say "it's not nice to talk
about medical things" as if he is some kind of code caduceus
bearing "judge" of medicine. :-) He is a nurse (probably
using a wastebasket-salvaged 1983 edition "Physician's Desk
Reference" as his medical terminology guide). If he REALLY
wanted some REAL rank, he could devote the next 9 years of
his life to add MD after his name and honestly say he "saves
lives." Tsk, he can't save his own life from the disease of
impersonation. May a colony of helicobacter pylori set up
housekeeping in his duodenum! :-) [he can share that with
papa Fred]

Freddie baby is prolly setting up a spittle session in here
bitching and bad-mouthing anyone who doesn't want to relive
times past a half-century ago when Kode was King. We'll see
what his kind of foaming-at-the-mouth trash talk against "no-
coders" will be. :-)

wrote:
From: on Sun, Sep 3 2006 6:17 am

wrote:
From: on Sat, Sep 2 2006 3:43 pm

Then again he may be a cousin to that anony-mousie "Slow Code."
Lots of inbreeding going on in the morsemen ranks.

The family tree has few branches.

The roots are dead, petrified (of change).
" whn the family becomes a family bush you can't can't hide as much
under it" Regent to the Centari Reblic B5 JMS

I wonder where Jimmy Noserve is hiding? Fred said "shut up!"
Jimmy would have a hissy fit if'n he saw that...:-)

I wonder where robesin is hiding? Fred said "ass..."

Jimmie Noserve showed up with his bimonthly Numbers (his period
on?)...still trying to "prove" that Technician class licensees
aren't really no-coders. :-)

interest that he still does that of course he still goes on when he
does post about being robbed in "incentive licensing" back roughly 50
years there was the real mistake and all the result of the ARRL's power
being misused, everything since has been trying to clean up the mess
that caused

Tell before that point what was the Code test speed reqrired for the
General License? some where I recall it being 5 wpm

Robeson showed up wondering who "Robesin" is...only proving that
the poor guy can't realize it is himself. He always was
illiterate in regards to alliteration.

nah he was trying to PRETED he does not know

Deny Robeson what you will he does that well (and vilely)


Welp, if Fred had a tour in Ohio as an Army recruiter back in the 70s...

Ya know, that always bothered me. Why would an ex-NAVY person
be "recruiting for the ARMY"? [explanation for the trash-mouth
newcomers: Robesin once claimed - in here - that was what his
late father did, but didn't say when or exactly where] The Army
has always used active-duty Army NCOs for such tasks since before
1973 (the ending of the "Draft"). Strange LIE by Robeson, must
have been done at time of some bad goods he swiped out of the
Sharps box.

Indeed I comented on that last year said th Bio Steve wrote for his old
looked like a lie that produced another of his aleged lawsuits that was
going to filed against me

A "Sharps box" is colloquial term for a plastic container
(usually wall mounted) for biological waste in medical
facilities, sometimes referred to as just a "Sharps." Made by
B. D. Sharps company and not affiliated with the dullness of
the pro-coders. They can be seen in most doctors' offices
and hospitals all over the country.

Robesin is going to come back and say "it's not nice to talk
about medical things" as if he is some kind of code caduceus
bearing "judge" of medicine. :-) He is a nurse (probably
using a wastebasket-salvaged 1983 edition "Physician's Desk
Reference" as his medical terminology guide). If he REALLY
wanted some REAL rank, he could devote the next 9 years of
his life to add MD after his name and honestly say he "saves
lives." Tsk, he can't save his own life from the disease of
impersonation. May a colony of helicobacter pylori set up
housekeeping in his duodenum! :-) [he can share that with
papa Fred]

I don't think Robeson could cut it

leaving ot the issue of could Robeson do the courework (I am not surre
I could) he could never survive the process with his temper he'd blow
somewhere and likely kill some one (either by ****ing up or flat out
murder) he dropped out of Nursing school by his own admission (maybe he
was asked to leave who knows)

Freddie baby is prolly setting up a spittle session in here
bitching and bad-mouthing anyone who doesn't want to relive
times past a half-century ago when Kode was King. We'll see
what his kind of foaming-at-the-mouth trash talk against "no-
coders" will be. :-)

yep unless the FCC grants us the mercy of the R&O first

an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: on Sun, Sep 3 2006 6:17 am

wrote:
From: on Sat, Sep 2 2006 3:43 pm

Then again he may be a cousin to that anony-mousie "Slow Code."
Lots of inbreeding going on in the morsemen ranks.

The family tree has few branches.

The roots are dead, petrified (of change).

" whn the family becomes a family bush you can't can't hide as much
under it" Regent to the Centari Reblic B5 JMS

Ah! Another fan! [too bad that B5 got cancelled...]

I wonder where Jimmy Noserve is hiding? Fred said "shut up!"
Jimmy would have a hissy fit if'n he saw that...:-)

I wonder where robesin is hiding? Fred said "ass..."

Jimmie Noserve showed up with his bimonthly Numbers (his period
on?)...still trying to "prove" that Technician class licensees
aren't really no-coders. :-)

interest that he still does that of course he still goes on when he
does post about being robbed in "incentive licensing" back roughly 50
years there was the real mistake and all the result of the ARRL's power
being misused, everything since has been trying to clean up the mess
that caused

Jimmie Noserve got hopeless when he tried to be some kind of
"informed insider" into the aerospace business here and his
attempts to "correct" REAL military veterans. He also tried to
foist off his old "$100 rig" as his own design but it was really a
near-copy of the "HBR" series that began in QST years ago.
Jimmie made the mistake of posting on that (relatively new
website) showing his HBR version, the very same photos he
had in a link posted here when he claimed it was all "original."
:-)

Tell before that point what was the Code test speed reqrired for the
General License? some where I recall it being 5 wpm

Robeson showed up wondering who "Robesin" is...only proving that
the poor guy can't realize it is himself. He always was
illiterate in regards to alliteration.

nah he was trying to PRETED he does not know

Deny Robeson what you will he does that well (and vilely)

Well, Robesin IS a PRETENDER to be sure... :-)

Welp, if Fred had a tour in Ohio as an Army recruiter back in the 70s...

Ya know, that always bothered me. Why would an ex-NAVY person
be "recruiting for the ARMY"? [explanation for the trash-mouth
newcomers: Robesin once claimed - in here - that was what his
late father did, but didn't say when or exactly where] The Army
has always used active-duty Army NCOs for such tasks since before
1973 (the ending of the "Draft"). Strange LIE by Robeson, must
have been done at time of some bad goods he swiped out of the
Sharps box.

Indeed I comented on that last year said th Bio Steve wrote for his old
looked like a lie that produced another of his aleged lawsuits that was
going to filed against me

If he keeps up all those civil suit theats he may have to open a
clothing store...

A "Sharps box" is colloquial term for a plastic container
(usually wall mounted) for biological waste in medical
facilities, sometimes referred to as just a "Sharps." Made by
B. D. Sharps company and not affiliated with the dullness of
the pro-coders. They can be seen in most doctors' offices
and hospitals all over the country.

Robesin is going to come back and say "it's not nice to talk
about medical things" as if he is some kind of code caduceus
bearing "judge" of medicine. :-) He is a nurse (probably
using a wastebasket-salvaged 1983 edition "Physician's Desk
Reference" as his medical terminology guide). If he REALLY
wanted some REAL rank, he could devote the next 9 years of
his life to add MD after his name and honestly say he "saves
lives." Tsk, he can't save his own life from the disease of
impersonation. May a colony of helicobacter pylori set up
housekeeping in his duodenum! :-) [he can share that with
papa Fred]

I don't think Robeson could cut it

leaving ot the issue of could Robeson do the courework (I am not surre
I could) he could never survive the process with his temper he'd blow
somewhere and likely kill some one (either by ****ing up or flat out
murder) he dropped out of Nursing school by his own admission (maybe he
was asked to leave who knows)

Robesin has so MANY variations on his "experiences" that it isn't
worthwhile trying to keep up... :-)


Freddie baby is prolly setting up a spittle session in here
bitching and bad-mouthing anyone who doesn't want to relive
times past a half-century ago when Kode was King. We'll see
what his kind of foaming-at-the-mouth trash talk against "no-
coders" will be. :-)

yep unless the FCC grants us the mercy of the R&O first

Tsk, that won't stop the "investment" olde-tymers...they will be
bad-mouthing no-code-test-advocates until their code keys are
pried from cold, dead fingers.